931. - Monica Padman

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. Hello and welcome to How Long Gone. Uh, this is Chris Black coming to you deep in the woods at Primland here in Virginia. Jason, do you 12,000 acres of land here for me to explore. I'm touching grass, as they say, taking in the mountain air. Speaker C: Mm-hmm. Speaker B: And you're— what browser are you gonna use to explore while you're there? Speaker A: Exactly. It's Chrome. It's the usual. Don't worry.

Speaker B: How much of that 1,200 acreage have we covered on foot so far? Speaker A: To be fair— Speaker B: How much kind of are we knocking out per day? Speaker A: To be fair, yesterday I did do some ATV driving. And we covered quite a lot of ground. And I got my barber extremely dusty to the point where I had to sort of take a rag to it afterwards. Speaker A: To be fair— Speaker B: How much kind of are we knocking out per day? Speaker A: To be fair, yesterday I did do some ATV driving.

And we covered quite a lot of ground. And I got my barber extremely dusty to the point where I had to sort of take a rag to it afterwards. Speaker B: Is that a waxed barber? Speaker A: It's a wax barber. Yes. The classic. It's the classic Bedell, the one I always wear. But it was— I wasn't— they were like, you're going to get a little dusty. I'm like, yeah, right. Look, I'm from the South. I get it. And then I got off and I looked like a fuck. There's like a body print.

Speaker B: Hey, barber boy, you're going to get a little dusty. Just listen up. Speaker A: The best part was, so it was me, I was driving one car and there was, there was another group behind us and there was like a leader and it was two per person and the leader was kind of a surly broad type, you know what I mean? Like, and she told us before— Speaker B: Barnacle Dyke, we call them. Speaker A: She was like, I don't like tailgating. And then a couple of, a couple of the other guys that worked there, the couple of guys that worked there were like on their cigarette break and they were both like, she don't like tailgating.

I was like, all right, I got it. She doesn't like tailgating. All right, fine. You know, I got it. Speaker B: Bitch, who does? Speaker A: Exactly. But so I'm following behind her. I'm the first car you know, I'm the first ATV right behind her, and I sort of get a hand signal in the air at one point, and I thought it was because we were taking a hard right and kind of going straight uphill, so I thought she was like warning me. Speaker B: Are you able to describe what this hand signal is, kind of DTF St.

Louis style? Speaker A: I don't know that. I mean, I know that show, I don't know the reference, but she's lifting her— she's lifting— Speaker B: Are you able to describe what this hand signal is, kind of DTF St. Louis style? Speaker A: I don't know that. I mean, I know that show, I don't know the reference, but she's lifting her— she's lifting— Speaker B: it features a sign language person. Speaker A: Oh, I see. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: She lifts her arm And not super aggressive, but in a way that was meant for me to notice.

You know what I'm saying? So I notice. Speaker B: And lifts her arm, not in like a Sieg Heil kind of way. You're talking about, is it more like a Delta Team Six kind of thing? Speaker A: Exactly. It felt like we were, all right, company move to the left or whatever. That's what it felt like to me. Yeah, exactly. Speaker B: It was giving Tropic Thunder, Ben Stiller, Tropic Thunder. Speaker A: Because we didn't have walkie-talkies or anything. So this is the only— Speaker B: Charlie's in the bush. Speaker A: We could only communicate via hand signals.

So then we get to the— we get to the— and I've— I want to be clear, my passenger is a woman named Elliot, and she was like, do you think you're tailgating? I'm like, I don't think so, I'm at least 10, you know, I'm back here. She's like, yeah, I don't think you're tailgating. So, so we get off, we stop. Speaker B: Good enough for Elliot, good enough for you. Speaker A: We stop, we get out, we're all dusty as fuck, I'm thirsty, I got fucking dust in my nose. And she was like, should we get out?

The first thing she says as soon as I take my helmet off is You're a tailgater. Speaker B: She just wasn't. Speaker C: She just wasn't. Speaker A: And I was like, I really didn't think that was tailgating. And I was like, can we agree at least that tailgating depends on the person? There's no law, you know what I mean? There's no tailgating guide that we can follow. And I did break her down. Speaker B: Similar to pornography. Know it when you see it. Speaker A: Exactly. So she, she did.

Speaker B: Similar to pornography. Know it when you see it. Speaker A: Exactly. So she, she did. Speaker B: Know it when you feel it. Speaker A: She did come around and agree with me that yes, in fact, tailgating is up to the person to decide. And that if I thought I wasn't, then technically I wasn't. Um, so it was a good— but I'm glad we got to the bottom of it. Speaker B: Oh wow, your honor, I don't believe I'm a murderer at all. Speaker A: Exactly, your honor. I was— okay, I didn't kill nobody, your honor.

But after we finished potting, I gotta respect those vibes. After we finish potting, I am finally hitting the river with Coggins and our guide to do some fly fishing. So if you see a picture of me holding a little fish later, um, you know, you'll know it came by— I came by honestly. It's not clawed. Speaker B: Oh, okay, okay. Nice to know you have a new pic for your Raya account, perhaps. Speaker A: I forgot. Speaker B: We'll get into that with our guest. Speaker A: I forgot. I forgot that's such a popular dating app.

The fish pic is so popular. We hear that from women a lot. Speaker B: Ladies, I'm good with my hands. Yeah. Okay. I was actually talking to Coggins yesterday. We were scheming in the DMs and he was saying, you know, it's nice to see Chris kind of come across that Mason-Dixon line. And be sort of reacclimated with some real kind of surly Southern Appalachia folk, folks who might not, you know, have as much of a level of patience for your city boy antics. Speaker A: That's right. Yeah, there's definitely a level.

I mean, luckily I was raised here long enough to know when my antics are not working and to kind of walk those antics back because I don't want to get, you know, I don't want something bad to happen to me at this. Speaker A: That's right. Yeah, there's definitely a level. I mean, luckily I was raised here long enough to know when my antics are not working and to kind of walk those antics back because I don't want to get, you know, I don't want something bad to happen to me at this.

Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker B: And that's why That's why I said a re-acclimation, because I know it's been in you since you was nothing but a boy, but it's been long enough that you've been living in Chinatown, New York City. So I think this is a good refresher course, you know what I mean? Speaker A: I think it is a good refresher course, and I think it's the perfect combination because it's literally this beautiful, insane resort, but then there's still— like yesterday, the kid driving us around is a 19-year-old who's kind of serving— Speaker B: The beauty of the good old Auberge Resort.

Family, we love you guys. Speaker A: Searching for something. I was like, man, I'm having this great heart-to-heart with a 19-year-old who's driving me to the ATV station. It was, you know, it did remind me what life is all about. Speaker B: You're trying to get your little Bruce Webber on, weren't you? What do you do, Kenton? Speaker A: No, his hair, his hair wasn't fully right for that. But yes, I mean, I'm always looking to get my Bruce Webber on. Speaker B: How old are your, are your digitals? Maybe we can rejoin.

Speaker A: Can you update your, can you update your digitals? I mean, if you're looking to travel, I mean, you know, we, we have options. Speaker B: So you sure we're 6'3"? Okay. Yeah, I was, when I was talking to, when I was talking to Coggins, You know, I was, I was saying, you know, Chris is going to come across a lot of these characters in the story of Black, in the good book of Black. And I was letting him know, you know, you play your cards right here on this fact-finding mission as well as self-funding mission, you're going to get a chapter out of this trip, I think.

Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've learned— I learned so much from David about the sportsman lifestyle and things that I've never thought about, like pheasant shooting. And other things that he's well-versed in. So there's a— Speaker B: Pheasantry. Speaker A: There's an information exchange going on. I did not get into the geese article, was not out yet yesterday on our drive from the Greensboro airport. Speaker B: How many game birds are we gonna cover? From the pheasants to the geese? Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. I'm feeling gamey, TJ, what can I say?

But there's a Wired story that's making the rounds today that's something we've talked about here on How Long Gone. I mean, we've mentioned this a couple times over the last month about this sort of, the sort of new age music marketing that involves sort of technology to really pump the— Speaker B: The damn clip farms. Speaker A: To really pump the numbers. And I'm just sort of like, like we were talking about earlier in the group chat, I mean, I think that this is a new version of payola that's a little harder to parse because you're not buying a head radio programmer and his family a vacation to the Bahamas for a week.

You know, it's a little harder to trace, but I think it's— Speaker B: It's a little more peer-to-peer. Speaker A: Well, I think the real issue is it's all above board and that's what makes people so mad. Is that it's sort of like there's nothing illegal or wrong about this unless your morals lean that way. Yeah. Whereas paying someone off feels very immoral to most people. Speaker B: Yeah. And, and, you know, the pros and the cons of having a monopoly media tentpole like radio where it's like, you want to, you know, we are your one and only marketing and outreach tool for the artwork that you've created.

So we have to work together. And, you know, now because of the internet, you can just say like, no, we're good. I mean, I'm just going to have an Indonesian clip farm. Speaker B: Yeah. And, and, you know, the pros and the cons of having a monopoly media tentpole like radio where it's like, you want to, you know, we are your one and only marketing and outreach tool for the artwork that you've created. So we have to work together. And, you know, now because of the internet, you can just say like, no, we're good.

I mean, I'm just going to have an Indonesian clip farm. Speaker A: I just feel like I can't decide who— yeah, I mean, I, I wonder who's really pissed off about this. I think that, like we said also, we said this earlier, but I think that Geese— that, I mean, it wouldn't work if it wasn't good. Like, I don't think you— I don't think you can fully— like, the internet is only so powerful. Like, you can't make something out of nothing. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, there can only be so many Pop Crave Kim Petras tweets.

You know what I mean? Speaker A: Literally, literally, there's all— there can only be so much. Speaker B: Um, that was a bad example. I, I'm— I support KP. Speaker A: We all, we all do. I, I'm not— I'm still, you know, I'm still— I don't— I still had to understand Slater, but we don't have time to get into that. So I just— Speaker B: you wouldn't— you're not ratchet enough, Chris. Speaker A: Are you ratchet enough though? Speaker B: Uh, uh, at one point in my life I enjoyed ratchet pussy, to quote Juicy J, but I would never myself would identify as somebody who is on that level of ratchet tree, although, you know, growing up on Peaches or whoever the proto version of Slater would be, you know, a brash in-your-face chica who really doesn't give an F what you think, you know, it's teetering on the edge of, you know, Hot Topic post-irony.

But yeah, a banger is a banger and sometimes we have to rage. Speaker A: It seems to be doing quite well too. Speaker B: Juicy J style, if you say. Speaker A: It seems to be doing— Speaker B: Let's rage! Remember when he said that in the song? Speaker A: Is that a Kid Cudi song or you're saying that's a Juicy J song? Speaker B: I think it was when he was on, um, the Katy Perry song. Speaker A: Of course, Katy Perry, uh, friend of the show. Speaker B: Dark Horse featuring Juicy J.

Speaker A: Katy Perry, come on the goddamn— come on, How Long Gone, it's time. Speaker B: She's had a month, huh? She's had a good 6 months. Speaker A: But we're Katy cats at the end of the day, and that's what I'm trying to say. Like, I'm a Katy cat. I— Katy has bangers. These, these hoes wish they could compete with Katy musically. And to be fair Stickwoman. I mean, Orlando Bloom, generational hunk. Speaker B: Trudeau, from skeet skeet to Trudeau. Speaker A: Exactly. How far can one woman go? I mean, exactly.

And I think in Trudeau, I mean, look, he, you know, he looks, he looks like a politician, which ain't a, you know, ain't a movie star, but he's pretty good looking for a politician. Like, if we're keeping it a whole bug. Speaker B: Yeah, he's given Gavin Newsom a run for his, uh, mogging money, right? Speaker A: Yeah, those two, those two fuckers, their little heads of hair need to fucking get back to governing. Speaker B: Yeah, Trudeau and Gavin, it's a who's gonna what in the threesome. There's no losers, you know what I mean?

Who's gonna want the— do you want the north side or the south side of the Eiffel Tower? Either way, it's a, it's a beautiful view. Speaker A: It's a beautiful view either way. The lights are sparkling. Speaker B: Beautiful, stunning view. Speaker A: The lights are sparkling no matter what. Oh man, that's beautiful. I'd love to hear it. Speaker B: Um, like a little more chub in the cheek, like more of a gaunt look. Take your pick, guys. Speaker A: It's— Speaker B: you get— Speaker A: yeah, best of both worlds.

Um, yeah, the, the— I've, I've— I'm 150 pages in into the Lena Dunham book and it is very good. Mm. And, but she's getting a little heat for some of this Adam Driver stuff. 'Cause she basically just tells, I, it's funny 'cause there's a Variety story I saw about it and then I, I literally just read it last night and I was sort of like, that's not really how it was framed exactly. Speaker A: It's a beautiful view either way. The lights are sparkling. Speaker B: Beautiful, stunning view. Speaker A: The lights are sparkling no matter what.

Oh man, that's beautiful. I'd love to hear it. Speaker B: Um, like a little more chub in the cheek, like more of a gaunt look. Take your pick, guys. Speaker A: It's— Speaker B: you get— Speaker A: yeah, best of both worlds. Um, yeah, the, the— I've, I've— I'm 150 pages in into the Lena Dunham book and it is very good. Mm. And, but she's getting a little heat for some of this Adam Driver stuff. 'Cause she basically just tells, I, it's funny 'cause there's a Variety story I saw about it and then I, I literally just read it last night and I was sort of like, that's not really how it was framed exactly.

Speaker B: You mean the Variety, Variety may have misconstrued some words from her memoir to create some sensational headlines? Speaker A: I'm saying the things that she's saying, like, they seem very, um, like straightforward. She's not putting a lot of sauce on it in a way that's like— she's not saying this hurt my feelings or this did this. She's just saying this is what happened, sort of. And I think that it's very easy to frame it as negative when a guy throws a chair against the wall, of course. But I'm like, he threw a chair at the wall next to me in rehearsal.

But she's saying that— when she says that completely matter-of-factly in a book I think it's very easy for it to be a headline and look crazy. Yeah, because nothing— I mean, you know, it's like obviously throwing a chair against the wall in rehearsal is not great, but nothing bad. I mean, nothing happened, you know what I mean? There's no way. Speaker B: So, so Lena Dunham says Adam Driver was being verbally aggressive on the Girls set, hurled me around during our first sex scene, and threw a chair at the wall next to me in rehearsal.

So how is Lena the one who is maybe getting getting some pushback on this and not him because, uh, people are mean. Speaker B: So, so Lena Dunham says Adam Driver was being verbally aggressive on the Girls set, hurled me around during our first sex scene, and threw a chair at the wall next to me in rehearsal. So how is Lena the one who is maybe getting getting some pushback on this and not him because, uh, people are mean. Speaker A: But she does have one defender, which is interesting, is that Anna from Red Scare wrote a poetic tweet yesterday about Lena Dunham that I have to say was— was— people, she was like, it was— it felt out of character.

Speaker B: I think some of her racist clock is right twice is what you're saying. Speaker A: Yeah, it's honestly— it was a really interesting— it was an interesting take. I, I'm not— I don't have it in front of me. I'm not going to read it. I'm not gonna I don't care that much, but the book is— the book is very good. I have to say, I'm really— I read 100 pages on an hour flight. I was taking it in. Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, how do you not? Let me see, I could find this— I can find this little tweet from her if it is just that good.

It's sad she felt this way about herself, but it couldn't have been any other way because she wouldn't have been such a great artist otherwise. She's more beautiful than any hot girl nepo baby influencer with lip filler, and Ozempic bird chest because she's a rare sort of person and not a moral loser. People will think I'm trolling or mentally ill or doing some evil inter— er, inter-scene female competition thing. But if you really think about it, you know it's true. Speaker A: In— Speaker B: internis— internecine? I'm not familiar with that word.

Now I look like a real loser. But yeah, poetic and nice. Speaker A: In— Speaker B: internis— internecine? I'm not familiar with that word. Now I look like a real loser. But yeah, poetic and nice. Speaker A: Poetic and nice. All right, we have a guest today. Speaker B: In turn, is seen destructive to both sides of a conflict. Okay, we're good. Speaker A: Got it. Speaker B: Sorry, I just, I was, for whatever reason, I was in the mood to fact check on today's episode. I don't know what it could be.

Speaker C: Weird. Speaker A: All right, hold on. Monica Padman is joining us today. You know her from her work on the, oh wait, what's it called? Armchair Expert. I was going to say Dax Shepard, Armchair Expert podcast with Dax Shepard. She's an actress as well, but more importantly, she has a 678 area code. She's from Atlanta, Georgia. Uh, as am I. So I can't wait to get into your favorite, you know, kind of local coffee houses in Stone Mountain and stuff. Speaker B: Uh, top 10 brunch spots in Duluth, let's get into it if time allows.

Speaker C: If time allows. Speaker A: All right, Monica, what's going on? How are you? Every time I go to the doctor, I walk out of that bitch feeling dumb. I got no real info. This guy in a white coat just say, you're fine, you know, drink more water. Speaker B: He knows how to charge my copay. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: That's about it. Speaker A: As if I could drink more water. Doctor. I, I don't get data. I don't get a game plan. I just get a pat on the ass and get out there and make it better.

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It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do 3 times a week? Speaker A: And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do.

That's just a guess. Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in, in what, uh, journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are to over there at, uh, Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcast. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And, and who couldn't use more news, you know, especially, especially when it's, when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it, give it a listen. Give it a listen.

Okay, so Monica, are you, are you a tech, are you a tech-forward person? Are you, are you into it more than you used to be? Maybe now as a professional audio podcaster, I should be. Speaker C: I'm absolutely not. I'm bad at it. I don't— I don't know. I mean, okay, well, to be fair, when we started the podcast, I was like, oh, I can figure that out. Dax was like, I want to do a podcast. Like, oh, I think I could figure that out. And I immediately was like, we need to bring in an audio engineer.

Speaker A: That's good to know. I would have been upset if you were techie. I don't— I don't think that's— I think it's a bad— I think it's a bad trait in most people unless they hide it and then it comes out when you really need it. Speaker B: Is it hot when a guy is like secretive about his tech knowingness and then he like mounts your TV in your living room and you're like, oh fuck. Speaker C: Yeah. How did he do that? I mean, yes, it is. I have to say, handy is hot.

Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Okay. What about if you're able to pay for someone else to do it and maybe you're not totally capable of it yourself? Speaker B: Oh, interesting question. Is rich hot also? Speaker C: Monica, I mean, I can't say it's not. Okay, it's, it's a positive box. Speaker A: You're a fruit lover and I'm saying apples or oranges and you said, hey, hey man, I'm a fruit lover, chop them up, put them on the plate, I'm good, I'm good to go. All right, so you live, you, where do you live in LA?

Speaker C: I live in Los Feliz. Speaker B: How far away do you live from Dax Shepard? Speaker C: I live mere steps away. Speaker A: That is okay. That is a choice. Now, I'm sure you were familiar with the neighborhood, you know what I mean? Obviously. But did you at least— did you at least look at other— you know, did you maybe kick the tires on Santa Monica or, you know, head over to— Speaker B: maybe I should reframe it. Did you have the choice of where you wanted to live, or was it chosen for you?

Speaker C: No, I have agency and free will. Um, so thank you, thank you. Speaker A: Hell yeah. Speaker C: I did make this decision on my own. Yeah, no, I was familiar, as you said, with the neighborhood because of them. And it's a very special neighborhood in Los Feliz. And so I was keeping my eyes out for houses that were going to maybe come on the market. Speaker B: maybe I should reframe it. Did you have the choice of where you wanted to live, or was it chosen for you?

Speaker C: No, I have agency and free will. Um, so thank you, thank you. Speaker A: Hell yeah. Speaker C: I did make this decision on my own. Yeah, no, I was familiar, as you said, with the neighborhood because of them. And it's a very special neighborhood in Los Feliz. And so I was keeping my eyes out for houses that were going to maybe come on the market. Speaker B: We're talking north of Los Feliz, right, honey? Speaker C: It's not— no, actually. Speaker B: Step your money up. What's up?

Come on, Spotify. Speaker C: If you, you can, you can— we're not at Spotify anymore. Great research. Speaker B: Where's the other— what's the other company that gave you tens of millions of dollars? I forgot. Speaker C: Yeah, Wondry. We thank them. We thank them. Amazon Wondry. Speaker A: Yeah, I know it's Wondry. It's, it's W-O-N-D-E-R. Speaker B: Okay, love those guys. Love my Wondry team. Speaker C: Yeah, they're great. We're, we're proud to be part of that team. Speaker A: I'm sure you are. I'd be proud of it. I'd be proud of it too.

Any team that pays me, I'm proud to be a part of. That's kind of a little bit of a whore, like. Speaker B: Okay, so are you hitting— you hitting All Time, you hit Maru. Are you an Albertsons chica or a Lassen's girly? Speaker C: Um, I am a Lazy Acres girl. Speaker B: I love Lazy Acres. Speaker A: Wow. See, a secret third thing. Can you— now I'm familiar with the Lazy Acres brand, and I know they opened the one in, in that general neighborhood that was a decrepit Walgreens or whatever for 10 years.

Speaker C: Um, I am a Lazy Acres girl. Speaker B: I love Lazy Acres. Speaker A: Wow. See, a secret third thing. Can you— now I'm familiar with the Lazy Acres brand, and I know they opened the one in, in that general neighborhood that was a decrepit Walgreens or whatever for 10 years. Speaker B: Um, drug adult Walgreens. Speaker A: What does the Lazy Acres brand promise? You know what I mean? Like, what am I getting at Lazy Acres? That I can't get somewhere else? Speaker C: I think it is a little less granola than Lassen's, which I appreciate.

You can get some things there that are more standard. Speaker A: Okay. So you can get— you can get a 6-pack of Coca-Cola. Speaker C: I believe you can. You can get like— I think you can get like Cheez-Its there. Speaker B: Mm-hmm. Speaker A: Did you know that I like Cheez-Its? Are you pandering to me or do you like— Speaker C: No. Do you? I love— Speaker A: Oh, hell no. What kind? Regular. Speaker B: Take the girl out of Georgia. Speaker C: Regular. Speaker A: Regular. People try to be like, have you tried the extra crispy?

I'm like, bro, get Get the shit out of here, bro. We only want— Speaker B: we're trying to do over here, bro. We don't— Speaker A: Cheez-Its OG, Wheat Thins OG. I don't want any extra shit on them. That's the flavor. Speaker B: Salt, bitch. Speaker C: Salt. Yeah, yeah. Don't mess with what's not broken, you know, that good old phrase. Speaker B: Yeah, these are— yeah, it's worded a little differently, but we got there. Speaker C: Okay, well, we'll just fast forward through that part. Speaker A: So you're saying, all right, so you put— you pull the— you pull the SUV, you pull the Bentley truck up to Lazy Acres and load up, or you getting it delivered?

Speaker C: I'm getting it delivered. You guys are really putting me on blast. I'm getting, I'm getting self-conscious. I live in Los Feliz. Speaker C: Okay, well, we'll just fast forward through that part. Speaker A: So you're saying, all right, so you put— you pull the— you pull the SUV, you pull the Bentley truck up to Lazy Acres and load up, or you getting it delivered? Speaker C: I'm getting it delivered. You guys are really putting me on blast. I'm getting, I'm getting self-conscious. I live in Los Feliz. Speaker A: No, Los Feliz is one of LA's great neighborhoods, honestly.

Speaker C: I know. Speaker A: There's no— Speaker C: It's not a cheap neighborhood. Speaker B: I've lived in Los Feliz. That was the first neighborhood I lived in when I moved to LA all the way from North Carolina. Speaker A: He had roommates, but it was still nice. I mean, it wasn't— Speaker B: I had roommates. Maybe someone slept in the living room instead of a bedroom. And maybe some of our kitchen furniture was borrowed from Fred 62's beautiful outdoor alfresco dining arrangements. Oh yeah. Speaker A: We're gonna put it back, we're gonna put it back.

Speaker B: Yeah, that was back when they just have like Heinz ketchup in the glass bottle on the table at 4 in the morning. How do you not steal it, you know? Speaker A: That's true, they're asking for it, they're asking. Speaker C: Yeah, it's a take-home, it's a take-home. Speaker B: Are you, are you sad that McCall's has left? Ah, this is, this is what we're gonna bond over. I feel bad that we're alienating everyone in the world who's listening who doesn't know all this specificities of the Los Feliz neighborhood, but I know it moved close.

I live in Glendale, so now it's in Atwater. Better location, closer to me, but the parking over there is a nightmare. The Los Feliz, when they had a little lot in the back, zip in. Obviously you had yours delivered up, up the hill, but I had to drive my car there. Speaker C: No, I walked to McCall's. So I used to live in Los Feliz on like off Los Feliz Boulevard and Commonwealth. So very close to McCall's. And I would walk to Hillhurst and walk to Morrow and do all those things.

So I do miss that little walk in general, and I definitely miss McCall's. So now, so now I have to drive to McCall's. I don't get it delivered. Speaker C: No, I walked to McCall's. So I used to live in Los Feliz on like off Los Feliz Boulevard and Commonwealth. So very close to McCall's. And I would walk to Hillhurst and walk to Morrow and do all those things. So I do miss that little walk in general, and I definitely miss McCall's. So now, so now I have to drive to McCall's.

I don't get it delivered. Speaker B: I should. You're like, you're like, is that an option? Speaker C: What am I doing? Speaker B: I don't know if they offer delivery, unfortunately. That would be too dangerous. Yeah, I wouldn't want to tally up the cost of that at the end of the year if I was doing that. We don't talk about that. Speaker A: Is McCall's that expensive? Speaker C: It's not cheap. Speaker B: It's not. Yeah, it's— well, it's one of those places where you just like go on a Saturday afternoon and like accidentally spend $128 on some bullshit.

Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: But it's all really good. Just like, oh, these crackers are $17 and like, I need it. Speaker A: You know, we've been talking on the podcast. There's breaking Silver Lake news. There's a $16 cold brew in Silver Lake, Monica. So I'm trying to— I'm coming to LA on Wednesday. At Loquat, and I'm trying to get— if you're around, I would be happy to buy you a $16 cold brew. I'm trying to spend— Speaker C: wow. Speaker A: I'm trying to spend $100 on cold brew, just a crisp whole squad cold brew.

Let me get a round of cold brews for everybody in here. Speaker B: But are you the type of person that's able to enjoy a pure cold brew with no anything in it? No sweeteners, no syrups, no banana cold foam, no chai protein foam? Speaker B: But are you the type of person that's able to enjoy a pure cold brew with no anything in it? No sweeteners, no syrups, no banana cold foam, no chai protein foam? Speaker C: I'm kind of a coffee baby. What does baby need to put in the coffee?

I have a little baby. Speaker B: Okay, what does, what does baby have to put in the coffee so the, so the medicine can go down? Speaker C: I mean, just milk, but like a fair amount of it. Speaker B: What's the percentage? My wife, she's hitting like, she's hitting 35-65 milk to, to coffee. Speaker C: We're going to 80. No, um, like latte or cappuccino, but I have to like, if I'm getting a cappuccino, I have to say to myself, this is going to be coffee heavy, like prep your brain.

This is a tea. This is an English breakfast tea right now, and it has milk in it. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: British vibes. I'm drinking tea right now as well. I'm trying to drink less coffee, so I'm drinking green tea. It's better for the body in many ways, but it doesn't give you that real kick in the keister that you get. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker B: And I was Googling yesterday. It said that like a cup of green tea is roughly 3 or like a cup of coffee is about 3 cups of tea's worth of caffeine.

So I just put 3 tea bags in my mug now and you get there. So try it with the breakfast. Speaker C: Oh, wow. Speaker B: Just double bag it. Speaker A: Green tea. Green tea makes me sick. It makes me nauseous. Oh, I think it's my body rejecting how— Speaker C: Oh, wow. Speaker B: Just double bag it. Speaker A: Green tea. Green tea makes me sick. It makes me nauseous. Oh, I think it's my body rejecting how— Speaker B: You're too white. Speaker A: You're too white. Speaker C: Yeah.

It's like you're not Asian enough for this. Speaker A: Fuck both y'all. He ain't Asian. He just likes Asian women. That's not the same. That's not the same. Speaker B: I have a more international stomach than you, Cheez-It head. Speaker C: One of those permeations. We say that Wabi Wab on our podcast is married to a beautiful Filipino woman. Well, she's half, I think. And then so somehow Rob is like a quarter. Like we've done some. He has kids. Oh, his kids. You see, it does start to get kind of complicated.

Speaker A: I do. I do have a definitively white palate. I'm not going to front. But, you know, I'm not— I'm not like offensively— I'm not like a total pussy. Speaker B: No, he's had guacamole. He's— no. Speaker A: Yeah, I've had guacamole. I've had guacamole before. I've had— I've had brown rice. I've had all the spicy stuff. Like, I'm not— I'm not crazy. I'm an adventurous eater. Speaker B: He's had various brown rice samosas. Speaker A: Varieties. Varieties. Speaker B: Lots of lentils. Speaker A: So you're sensitive. So you're not tucking a Zen in that lip when you fire up the on-air sign?

Speaker C: Me? Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker C: Oh my God, I was like, oh, what are you talking about? No, no, I am— I am not doing any dipping. Uh, I've never smoked a cigarette in my— all of my days. But I do, um, I, I'm a— I drink. I'm a drinking gal. Speaker A: Okay, so you're an alcoholic. Thank you for sharing. Speaker C: I didn't want say it like that, but it was a euphemism. Drinking gal. Speaker B: I'm a drinking gal. That's the name of my Facebook group where we share different ways, different DUI strategies.

Speaker A: Uh, no, go left, go left. For sure, they're never down. Speaker B: I'm a drinking gal. Look, I, it's— I'm glad that you do have a destructive outlet of some sort. Speaker C: I do. I have a vice because I was worried about you, Monica. Speaker A: I was worried that you were a little too straight-laced. Speaker B: We didn't want you to be too teacher's petty. I'm glad that you sort of need alcohol to live instead of enjoy it. Speaker C: That's why I had to say it.

I could sense you guys were getting some false ideas. Speaker A: Well, what's your Jägerbomb intake like? I mean, how crazy are we going? Speaker C: I mean, like, listen, I've graduated to, um, martinis. Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, those are heavy alcohol content. Speaker C: It's basically you're just drinking alcohol. Speaker B: It just says espresso in front of it, or is it a regular one? Regular. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker C: It is a regular martini, lemon twist, no vermouth. So it literally, it is just gin. Speaker B: Oh shit.

Monica, that is my martini order as well. Dry, dry as a bastard, lemon twist. You know, I sometimes I like a little rinse of vermouth, you know, just a spray, a little droplet. Speaker C: Yeah, I used to do that, but I'm over that. Speaker A: Bro, imagine this guy saying rinse of vermouth and me trying to keep a straight face. Guys, bro, you can't be doing, you can't be saying rinse of vermouth. Speaker B: I mean, it's always insufferable to do it, but it gets so much worse. Verse, you know, when you like— there's that, um, I think it was on Industry, a guy ordered a martini at like a one of those British high-falutin' bars and he's like, martini cold as space yesterday.

Like when you, when you order it like that, you're like, all right, guy, what the fuck? Like, which is like a serious— like, like if you were on a date with a guy and the, the martini order was a little too showy-showy like that, is that a turn-off or do you like taking control of your cocktail? Speaker C: Yeah, I used to do that, but I'm over that. Speaker A: Bro, imagine this guy saying rinse of vermouth and me trying to keep a straight face. Guys, bro, you can't be doing, you can't be saying rinse of vermouth.

Speaker B: I mean, it's always insufferable to do it, but it gets so much worse. Verse, you know, when you like— there's that, um, I think it was on Industry, a guy ordered a martini at like a one of those British high-falutin' bars and he's like, martini cold as space yesterday. Like when you, when you order it like that, you're like, all right, guy, what the fuck? Like, which is like a serious— like, like if you were on a date with a guy and the, the martini order was a little too showy-showy like that, is that a turn-off or do you like taking control of your cocktail?

Speaker C: That's— oh gosh, that's a good question because I, I, I've never been in that position because I do order— this is my order: Hendrick's Martini, lemon twist, no vermouth, bruised. Speaker B: So, period. Speaker C: I am doing that a little bit. Speaker A: So you're the, you're the bad part. Speaker C: Yeah, I am. Speaker A: What is— Speaker C: so if— Speaker A: can I ask, the only bruise I'm familiar with is sort of when I run my knee into the wall or something. What does the bruise mean when you're in the martini land?

I'm not familiar with this. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: This nomenclature. Speaker C: It's not like a domestic— Speaker A: yeah, this is— Speaker C: you're— Speaker A: you're— this is giving domestic abuse vibes. Speaker B: So yeah, so Chris only knows shaken or stirred, and now you're saying there's a secret third thing. Speaker C: Well, bruised basically is shaken. Speaker B: It's— Speaker C: it just means very icy. Speaker A: Okay, so icy, vigorously shaken with, with hella cubes. Okay, I've— in all of my years, to be fair, I've been sober for a while, but in all of my years Hey, thank you.

Thank you. It's much better where you are, but you know, here we go. I don't understand the— okay. Bruised. Jason, have you heard that before? Speaker C: you're— Speaker A: you're— this is giving domestic abuse vibes. Speaker B: So yeah, so Chris only knows shaken or stirred, and now you're saying there's a secret third thing. Speaker C: Well, bruised basically is shaken. Speaker B: It's— Speaker C: it just means very icy. Speaker A: Okay, so icy, vigorously shaken with, with hella cubes. Okay, I've— in all of my years, to be fair, I've been sober for a while, but in all of my years Hey, thank you.

Thank you. It's much better where you are, but you know, here we go. I don't understand the— okay. Bruised. Jason, have you heard that before? Speaker B: I have heard it. Yes. Speaker A: Okay. I have not heard that before and I like it a lot. It actually makes a lot of sense. It's a fun descriptor. Speaker B: It's letting you know I don't want it to be stirred. Speaker C: Exactly. Speaker B: I want you to grab it like Adam Driver grabs Lena Dunham and shake the shit out of it in a hot way.

You know, somehow. Okay. But last question, do you strain? Into the martini glass, or do you like crunching down on those little shards of ice? Speaker C: I kind of like a little shard on top. Speaker B: No judgment. Some people go either way. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker B: My wife's a cruncher. I like it strained myself. Speaker C: Okay. Speaker A: A little shard is never bad. It's not bad. I think it makes it— it could be a placebo of making it feel even colder. Speaker C: It's food. Speaker A: By seeing the— Speaker B: yeah.

Also good for my eating disorder chicas out there, crunching on those ice chips, baby. Oh, I'm so full. Speaker A: Definitely. Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Don't worry, I'm eating with this. Speaker A: No fries for me, I'm just having shards. Yeah, Alex chews her smoothie like she drinks her smoothie in the way Canadians— I'm sucking it down, but she's chewing it, she's making a meal of it. And I'm like, oh, that's smart actually, because it does have a toothsome— depending on how many, you know, bananas and dates are in there.

Speaker B: yeah. Also good for my eating disorder chicas out there, crunching on those ice chips, baby. Oh, I'm so full. Speaker A: Definitely. Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Don't worry, I'm eating with this. Speaker A: No fries for me, I'm just having shards. Yeah, Alex chews her smoothie like she drinks her smoothie in the way Canadians— I'm sucking it down, but she's chewing it, she's making a meal of it. And I'm like, oh, that's smart actually, because it does have a toothsome— depending on how many, you know, bananas and dates are in there.

Speaker B: Yeah, texture, it's all about texture, you guys. Speaker C: You gotta get into that texture. Speaker A: I agree. Speaker B: So I mean, what's the difference? I mean, one of your Backyard Bowls, Chris, that's nothing but a thick smoothie. Monica, have you been to Backyard Bowls? Speaker A: It's the best restaurant in LA. I don't know if you've been there. Speaker C: I do like Backyard Bowls. I haven't been in a while, but I used to love it. What's your order there? Speaker A: Power Bowl, no chia seeds.

Or no, excuse me, Power Bowl with chia seeds. They do get in your teeth, unfortunately. Speaker B: Roller coaster ride. Speaker C: They do. Speaker A: Sorry, I didn't mean to take you guys on a trip. They get in your teeth a little bit. So sort of it depends on where I got to go after. Speaker B: Are the chia seeds, are they still hard and crunchy or have they been soaked and activated? Speaker A: I would say activated. I don't get a distinct crunch coming off of them if I remember correctly.

Speaker B: Thank God. Speaker A: Thank God. I'll get back to you tomorrow. I'll get back to you tomorrow after I dig into one. Speaker B: Please do. Speaker C: Wait, Chris, so you're in Atlanta? Speaker A: No, no, I live in New York, but I'm in— I'm currently in— I'm at this Auberge hotel in Virginia called Premland. Speaker C: Oh, I love Auberge. Speaker A: Where people go to sort of like— Speaker C: I really do. Speaker A: This is where people, Southern people go. You can hunt here. You can fish, you can ATV, you can, you know— oh fun, you can do it all.

Speaker A: No, no, I live in New York, but I'm in— I'm currently in— I'm at this Auberge hotel in Virginia called Premland. Speaker C: Oh, I love Auberge. Speaker A: Where people go to sort of like— Speaker C: I really do. Speaker A: This is where people, Southern people go. You can hunt here. You can fish, you can ATV, you can, you know— oh fun, you can do it all. Speaker C: I mean, not for me, but for you guys. Speaker A: You're not, you're not an outdoorsy type of chick?

Um, no, I'm not either. Speaker B: So both of you guys both hanging out and growing up in the beautiful bluegrass hills of Georgia, and we're both just on AOL Instant Messenger all day? Speaker C: Yeah, AIM. Speaker B: Okay, we're all AIMing all day. Speaker C: All day. Speaker A: Where, where did you grow up for real for real though? Let's go, let's get like— are you OTP or, or let's get honest here. Speaker C: No, Duluth. Speaker A: Oh, you really are Duluth. I thought Jason was just making a really clever joke.

Speaker C: I know, he did a great— that was great. Speaker A: I was like, damn, Jason, Jason's been to Atlanta. I read the wiki quite a few times, so I thought he might have picked up on it. You know, Duluth also is sort of a food hotspot in Atlanta. Speaker C: Well, it's, it's grown a ton also since I've left. When I go, my parents are still there, so I go back and it's gotten so cute. Speaker A: Okay, so you're saying, you're saying you're kind of industrial suburb has become— you can go to a place that has brunch with like fake flowers around the doorway.

Yeah, yeah, deadass. I know, I know. Speaker C: I mean, my dream. Speaker A: That's— Speaker B: you can't get that down in Glasscock County, can you? Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's a place you, you can't— I didn't— okay, so did you go to high school in Duluth? Speaker C: I did. Duluth High School. Speaker A: Oh, so you're just a— right, okay, you're right. Speaker C: I mean, my dream. Speaker A: That's— Speaker B: you can't get that down in Glasscock County, can you? Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's a place you, you can't— I didn't— okay, so did you go to high school in Duluth?

Speaker C: I did. Duluth High School. Speaker A: Oh, so you're just a— right, okay, you're right. Speaker C: Look at my shirt. I see this is a Georgia shirt. I went to University of Georgia as well. Speaker A: Go Dawgs! Speaker B: Go Dawgs! Also, she was a cheerleader, Chris, so she was a real All-American girl. Speaker A: Hold on, hold on. You were a cheerleader at high school or college? Speaker C: In high school. I was a competition cheerleader, 2-time state champ. Speaker A: Okay, but were you a— were you a flyer or a base?

Speaker C: Flyer. Speaker B: How dare you, Chris? I know. Speaker C: Who do you think I am? No, I'm sorry. Speaker B: Follow-up question, Monica. How much did you weigh in high school? Speaker C: That actually is a great question. I was probably like 95 to 100 pounds. I was very small back then. Speaker A: Did you think this was— did you just love doing this? Did your parents force you to do it? Was it so you could be close to football players? What was the goal? Because it— cheerleading doesn't have a big upside at the end of the day after a college scholarship, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker C: Oh, man, it's just so fun. I mean, the fact— the idea that you threw in that my parents forced me, they were like, what is this? Like, why? Why are you— Speaker B: this sounds like an epic waste of time and money. Speaker C: Yeah, correct. Yeah. But no, it was the cool thing. The cool girls did it, you know? No, and I had to try to be, of course, a cool girl. I was trying very hard to be accepted. And popular. I succeeded, by the way. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, but were you— but you weren't pulling boys in high school, though, were you? Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but were you— but you weren't pulling boys in high school, though, were you? Speaker C: No, I wasn't. They didn't like me. Speaker A: Are you claiming this is racism or are you saying this is something else? Speaker C: You know what? Speaker A: It can be a little bit of both as well. Speaker C: I used to— I used to— I think it was both. Speaker B: What was wrong with you in high school?

Speaker C: I mean, look, I just explained I was 95 pounds. Speaker B: Guys hate petite cheerleaders, by the way. Speaker C: And I was a cheerleader and I was smart. So, you know, you tell me if it's racism or not. Speaker A: The problem— but no, the problem— the problem is smart. That's where you fucked up. That's where you fucked up. A 17-year-old tight end doesn't want no smart shit. He wants— he likes the titties, he likes the cheerleading, but once you try to talk to him about class, he's out.

Speaker B: You gotta join— join the science club. Speaker C: Okay, I wasn't like leading with like my science project or anything, but we had— we had— there was a group. Speaker B: So you think the other cheerleaders are dumb? Wow. Speaker C: Yeah, that is it. Interesting. Um, no, we, you know, my first, one of my very first memories that I, we do talk about a lot on the podcast, so it's kind of like nauseating at this point, but what there was, I liked this boy. This was middle school, those things were getting real hot and heavy for everyone, you know.

And, um, he told my friend, my friend said, why don't you ask Monica to be your girlfriend? He said, well, I would, but I can't, like, her parents work at Dairy Queen. Which they did not work at Dairy Queen. Speaker A: Okay, I know they didn't work at Dairy Queen. I know that. Speaker C: Yeah, I just— but not everyone understands as you do because you understand that, um, a lot of Indian people would franchise out the Dairy Queens, um, there. Speaker A: Okay, I know they didn't work at Dairy Queen.

I know that. Speaker C: Yeah, I just— but not everyone understands as you do because you understand that, um, a lot of Indian people would franchise out the Dairy Queens, um, there. Speaker B: So I'm glad it wasn't a more sinister— Speaker A: you're like, oh, my parents, my parents own 12 of those, they don't work there. That's different. Speaker C: I mean, nowadays, exactly. I'd be like, I wish We'd be living in much, much bigger house. Speaker A: Very lucrative. Speaker C: Anyway, all to say, he, he couldn't date me because of my, my, my brown skin.

And you know what? That, that really set me on a course. Speaker A: Okay. Because you're saying you have trouble in the dating arena. Speaker C: I do. And I have a very, I have a very hard time accepting like anyone likes me. Speaker A: You're so, you're saying if a guy's, if guys you know, whatever, like obviously showing that he likes you, you're saying you don't believe him or you're saying like, bro, chill, this makes me uncomfortable. Speaker C: Well, now I mean, look, I mean, I'm so mature now, you know.

Speaker A: I mean, of course. Yeah, we can tell. Speaker B: Decades of therapy. She's finally come around. Speaker C: I've come around. But there, you know, there's just mainly like, oh, I like this person, I like this person, then they like me back and I'm like, never mind, then you're fucked up. There's something wrong with you. Speaker A: Oh, so you're saying once— okay, so once you— once Third date comes around, you're like, actually, you're— you like me. Speaker C: If you like me, you have a problem. Speaker B: It's the classic Rodney Dangerfield quote.

I wouldn't be a member of a club that would have me as a member. Speaker C: That's right. But I don't think it's Rodney. But that's— but yeah. Speaker A: Oh, so you're saying once— okay, so once you— once Third date comes around, you're like, actually, you're— you like me. Speaker C: If you like me, you have a problem. Speaker B: It's the classic Rodney Dangerfield quote. I wouldn't be a member of a club that would have me as a member. Speaker C: That's right. But I don't think it's Rodney.

But that's— but yeah. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker C: That— Speaker A: I think that is one of those classic quotes that is miscredited to Rodney Dangerfield. Speaker C: So like everyone. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: That's Groucho Marx. Sorry, my bad. Speaker A: That's a That's a problem. That's a problem. And I know that you're working through it, but I feel like because of your position in the, in the space, you're meeting a lot of eligible, you know, whether— I mean, you know, all these guys, all these big, you know, actors and musicians that come on the podcast, they've got, they got people that work for them, you know what I mean?

They got like, they got eligible, do you know what I'm saying? Speaker C: Eligible assistants. They got full— Speaker A: not even assistants, I'm saying they got full staff. They got guys that run production companies. They got— oh yeah, they got publicists. You know, there's a whole because you don't want the problems. You ain't trying to fix Ben Affleck, you know what I'm saying? You need— Speaker C: I know, well, well, he is— Speaker A: you would fit. Speaker C: He is one of my number one crushes. Speaker A: Affleck's one of Affleck's top 3, top 3.

Speaker C: Matt and Ben were my first celebrity crushes and they, they remain. Speaker A: I mean, I think Ben is, uh, actually such a brilliant— I, I wish people would give him the opportunity to talk more, actually. Speaker C: Oh, he's so smart. Speaker A: I think he's so— I think he's, he's really because he's such a stick man and he's been so prolific with women, I think people forget you can be smart and do that. And I think men, you know, I think representation matters. Speaker C: Oh, he's so smart.

Speaker A: I think he's so— I think he's, he's really because he's such a stick man and he's been so prolific with women, I think people forget you can be smart and do that. And I think men, you know, I think representation matters. Speaker C: Exactly. Speaker B: Yeah, that was huge for me. Speaker C: Yeah, I, I, you know what, I'm here to take one for the team if, if he wants to call me. Speaker A: Sure, sure, you're willing to. But I'm saying, so where— okay, if you're, if you're striking out, where are you meeting these guys though?

Because I think Jason and I, you know, we're in our 40s. I feel like we have some— we could give you some advice. Speaker C: Oh, I'd love your advice. Speaker B: We're experts in being men. I know that you had a podcast. You did a podcast sort of about this with a friend about your dating woes. Speaker C: I did, yes. Speaker B: And you all, and you know, you were on Raya and things like that. So you're doing the standard. Speaker C: But I'm not anymore. Speaker B: No more Raya?

Yeah. What happened on Raya? Speaker C: I just don't like the apps. Speaker A: You don't like hot guys that surf? Speaker B: User interface is a little clunky. Speaker C: You should try the surfing stuff. Speaker B: Why, why is surfing tough? Speaker C: Because they have to be so close to the beach. I live on the other side of town. Speaker A: That's actually very practical of you. You're saying I don't need you to get up and drive your vintage Tacoma. Speaker B: But in Los Feliz, you, you take the 134 up to Malibu, you put a couple of your sticks on top of the Land Cruiser, it's vintage, no worries.

He's back eating a breakfast burrito before you're awake. I mean, that's pretty hot. Speaker C: That's fine with me. I just feel like a lot of surfers like to live by the water, like, which I understand. They like like, you know, it's part of their whole vibe. Um, but I just bought this house. I'm not going anywhere. Speaker C: That's fine with me. I just feel like a lot of surfers like to live by the water, like, which I understand. They like like, you know, it's part of their whole vibe.

Um, but I just bought this house. I'm not going anywhere. Speaker A: Yeah, you're not trying to go— okay, you're not trying to go on— Speaker B: you can get a bicycle. Speaker A: Yeah, I think that, like, because— are you trying to— are you trying to keep it in your, your general age group? Are you trying to go a little older? Speaker B: Well, yeah, what's the search parameters on that age? Um, 18 to 55. Speaker C: Oh my God. Um, I— yeah, I generally like a little bit older.

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Yeah. So I kind of wonder if at this point I got to like go back. I got to go back to the new. Speaker B: Okay, well, how low will you go? Because I know because you're probably— you're younger than Dakota, but in roles, what? Speaker C: I'm older than her. Speaker B: Oh, really? Speaker C: Yes. Speaker B: Okay. So their age gap is what, like 6 years or something like that? 6 or 8 years? I don't know. Speaker C: Probably. I haven't done my research. I should— Speaker C: I'm older than her.

Speaker B: Oh, really? Speaker C: Yes. Speaker B: Okay. So their age gap is what, like 6 years or something like that? 6 or 8 years? I don't know. Speaker C: Probably. I haven't done my research. I should— Speaker A: which is nothing crazy. Nothing crazy when a woman does it. A man tries to do that, get crucified. Something to think about. Speaker C: Well, do you get crucified? You just like keep— you're like Leo and you just like keep dating hot young girls? Speaker A: I think that you get— I think you get crucified when you're Leo.

Unfortunately, the crucifixion doesn't really reach your AirPods, you know what I mean? Speaker B: It's— Speaker C: yeah, he doesn't care. And he shouldn't care. Speaker B: And when you're Leo, the crucifixion feels kind of good, actually. Speaker A: I'm actually sort of into being crucified. Speaker C: It's like training for a role. He's just like getting, you know, he's just prepping. Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, younger— I think younger, I just don't— I don't know. I think that sometimes that can be a recipe for disaster. But if you find the right one, of course anything is possible.

Speaker B: My wife has talked about this. She works in fashion and she meets a lot of young guys and women in your similar situation. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker B: And a lot of her friends who are, you know, mid-30s are dating younger guys. One part because that's all there is out there. And number two, younger guys are a little bit more emotionally Yeah, you know, in touch with themselves, a little more, you know, less chauvinistic and misogynistic. Unless you got some boring— Speaker A: you want to— all right, so you want a pussy that don't even drive?

Speaker B: But you need— you, you need that perfect balance of all of those things with a little bit of edge, right? Speaker A: Monica, Monica needs a little misogyny, I can tell. You need just a little pinch. Speaker A: you want to— all right, so you want a pussy that don't even drive? Speaker B: But you need— you, you need that perfect balance of all of those things with a little bit of edge, right? Speaker A: Monica, Monica needs a little misogyny, I can tell. You need just a little pinch.

Speaker C: You said it, not me, you know. Speaker A: I'm joking. I'm joking. But I do think that there's like a— Speaker C: yeah, there's a fine line. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: Well, I think, I think some of these young guys may be too emotionally immature to the point where it's like, yo, relax, we'll turn off. Speaker C: Yeah. It's like we don't have to talk about everything. Speaker A: Well, I talk about, I talk about this sometimes because I— and you're, I mean, you're in a similar position to us career-wise, but we're sort of paid to reflect constantly.

Speaker C: Yes. Speaker A: Like you have to think about yourself all the time and what you, how you, what your opinion is or how you feel about this thing. Which is deeply unhealthy and flawed, I would say, as a premise. Speaker C: Yeah, it's narcissistic, really. Speaker B: Sounds cool to me. Beats having a real job. Speaker A: I mean, that's fair. But I think young people, like, that's the default. Like, I think the default is like, I am the main character. I think about myself all the time. Speaker C: I know.

Speaker A: I'm saying it's bad for us, but at least we get paid for it. You know what I mean? It makes it— there's a small upside. Yeah, small upside. Well, bigger upside for you, but there's an upside. Side. Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I think that's right. Again, there's like all these tradeoffs where it's obviously good to not be repressing all your shit. But then, yeah, I think you could also be like very soft and very sensitive to the world, which is, you know, can be a little like, I can't carry this for you.

Speaker B: As they say, pussy just dries up at a certain point. Speaker C: Well, yeah, you know, I still have— I think I have a few more years. Before that happens. Speaker A: Are you talking about— are you talking about the first episode of Friends and Neighbors where Amanda Peet's going through menopause? Because it's on my mind too. Wow, it's on my mind too. Speaker B: We got Pete on the brain. Speaker C: Menopause is scary, you guys. Speaker A: Well, Amanda Peet, it talks— she talks to her friend.

It was just a funny— it's basically like it— it— the rage that you get, I guess, is really like— it basically— she— it's like she's gonna kill her neighbor for the dog shitting in her yard. Speaker C: Yeah, hormones. Speaker A: Y'all got it bad. Speaker C: Hormones. Speaker B: Now that— well, on the topic of menopause, I was, I was thinking about, um, about egg freezing. Speaker C: Ah, you really have done your research. Speaker B: I don't know how egg freezing pertains to you, but I guess somebody in their mid-30s with money, I'm sure you've got a brochure or two.

And I was thinking, you know that phrase, Mr. Steal Your Girl, Chris? Speaker A: Yes, yes, I'm familiar with Mr. Steal Your Girl. Speaker B: From a rap song. And I was thinking like the younger guys are going to almost volunteer to freeze the eggs, you know, with you versus you having to sort of, you know, pry them and sit them down and get them, you know, have the egg talk. Oh, yeah. So guys are, you know, like a Mr. Freeze Your Eggs, Captain Save-A-Ho kind of thing. These young guys are going to come in and be like, I would just love to, like, freeze eggs with you and, like, see what happens.

Speaker A: That's a new line they're going to say. Yo, baby, I mean, I just love you so much. Speaker C: Like, let's go ahead and make some embryos. Speaker A: That's a new line they're going to say. Yo, baby, I mean, I just love you so much. Speaker C: Like, let's go ahead and make some embryos. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: I would freeze with you. Speaker A: Honestly, I know it's only been 6 months, but I'm, like, down to freeze. Real talk. Wow. Speaker C: Yeah, I love them.

Speaker B: But when you hear that from a guy, the fine line is like, whoa, or just like, oh my God, I found my forever person. Speaker C: Uh, I think it depends on, again, your age. Like, me now, if I met someone and I thought they were really great and they were like, you know, if you want to go ahead and just like freeze some embryos, I would be like, yeah, let's do it. I think, actually, I don't know. Not even me just saying that, I was like, would I?

I don't know. I have, I have frozen my eggs twice, but those are just eggs, you know, unfertilized. So those have a lower chance of, of, you know, being a little baby. Speaker B: Lower chance in the formed embryo. And you did thaw them out and refrost them, or these are two separate freezing sessions and eggs? Speaker C: Two sessions. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker C: And, um, so yeah, like embryos are a better thing to freeze. So I don't know though, because like I'm also pretty paranoid. I'm like, can we do a lot of like— I need to learn about your history.

Speaker A: I need any— Speaker C: I need to know before any red flags that come up like biologically. Speaker B: Well, what are, what are the— what are those things that you're looking out for, you know, beyond criminal record and, and FICO score? Look, what are you looking for on the, on the DNA side of things? 6'3", white, whatever. Speaker A: I need any— Speaker C: I need to know before any red flags that come up like biologically. Speaker B: Well, what are, what are the— what are those things that you're looking out for, you know, beyond criminal record and, and FICO score?

Look, what are you looking for on the, on the DNA side of things? 6'3", white, whatever. Speaker C: Else. That's it, honestly, that's it. That's my— those are my only requirements. Speaker B: Feel like I'm gonna do a deep forensic dive on how tall the boys in your family are. Speaker C: Yeah, I need some average heights. Speaker A: Average heights would be really good. Get a— Speaker C: how white are you? Like, is that Ireland or like, what are we talking about? Speaker A: You want to go back, you want to get some lineage.

Speaker B: You don't want to go like Danish clear, motherfuckers, but let's Less, you know, we don't want Arctic white, maybe a little eggshell white. Speaker C: Yeah. I'm just like worried about like some cross-contamination. Speaker A: Yeah. Get into your Faro ball bag, Jason. That was nice. That was nice. I saw what you did there. I saw what you did there. Speaker B: We're kind of re-judging the garage. So I've got paint on the brain right now. Speaker A: I feel like you, but you're not. So you, have you gone through the Friends setup phase already?

And that hasn't panned out? Speaker C: Ish. Like, I will— not that many people have done setups. I am in a very insular friend group that, like, everyone's married. And also where I grew up too, same situation. Like, all my friends from home married their high school sweethearts. So we're just, like, traveling in this pack of all these people. Speaker B: You get to see all of it on Facebook. Speaker B: You get to see all of it on Facebook. Speaker C: Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, I'm on Facebook. Speaker B: All the little fat kids.

Speaker C: No, but you know, when you're in a group of people that are coupled up, it is not the best scenario to go out and meet people. But I, I love my friends, and so I'm always choosing that, you know. I'm kind of always like, yeah, I'd rather just see Monica. Speaker A: Monica, maybe it's time to choose you, you know. Oh wow, that part, that part. Speaker B: Okay, so are you ever like at all time at like a Six Top and there's a cute guy and then all of your married drunk friends are like, you should go talk to him?

Like, do they try to get you to do stuff like that, or they, they let you do your little thing? Speaker C: They kind of let me do my thing. Speaker A: That's not helpful. Speaker C: Yeah, they're actually— Speaker A: they're my, my, you know, my— I would say that my single friends are, you know, 30-year-old guys who are good-looking but just kind of, you know, like, they're just not motivated, let's say, the way, the way that I think Jason and I were in our younger days. They're motivated more by other things.

Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: And I think there's been a societal shift. Speaker B: I was motivated to ghost back then, but that's kind of about it. Speaker A: Oh, ghosting's fine. I'm saying like, they're not even motivated. They're not even they're like, I'd rather just hang with the fellas. Like, they don't— Speaker C: yeah, they don't want a partner. Yeah. So what, what motivated you to— like, why were you different? Speaker A: I mean, because I used to be fat and then I wasn't fat and then I was doing coke and I was like, this is sick.

Like, there's chicks around. I mean, very simple, very simple equation, really. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: I just mean our, our gen— our generation. I'm 43. Jason's a little older than me. It's sort of just like the thing you went— you chased tail and you did drugs. That's what— yeah, that's what your 20s were about. And there was no There was no yoga. There was no, like, thinking about what you were doing. There was no— and it was, like, debaucherous, but it wasn't that, you know, it wasn't that crazy, really, you know what I mean?

It wasn't, like, actually that crazy. I mean, until it got crazy, but until it hits. Speaker A: I mean, because I used to be fat and then I wasn't fat and then I was doing coke and I was like, this is sick. Like, there's chicks around. I mean, very simple, very simple equation, really. Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: I just mean our, our gen— our generation. I'm 43. Jason's a little older than me. It's sort of just like the thing you went— you chased tail and you did drugs. That's what— yeah, that's what your 20s were about.

And there was no There was no yoga. There was no, like, thinking about what you were doing. There was no— and it was, like, debaucherous, but it wasn't that, you know, it wasn't that crazy, really, you know what I mean? It wasn't, like, actually that crazy. I mean, until it got crazy, but until it hits. Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Speaker A: But I just mean, in general, that was sort of what our generation— women too. I mean, that's, that's, like, what the generation— Speaker B: you have a 5-year plan necessarily?

More so, like, what's going on tomorrow night? Where are we all gonna meet up and get drunk? Speaker A: Especially when people are— no one had, like, a real job. I mean, you know, most people hung out with didn't even have aspirations for a real job, quote unquote. So there was more years of Peter Pan-ing available to you. Yeah, at that, at that stage. And now I think that's not even— it's just not even— I don't even think it's frowned upon. I think it's just like different. I think you're right, society-wise.

Like, even if you think about celebrity, I mean, like, the time we were growing up, it was like you would see celebrities leaving nightclubs every night, like, fall down drunk. Like, that was the entire culture that we were raised on, was like Us Weekly pictures of Lindsay in Paris like, look, you know, eyes closed, leaving the Viper Room. Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I, I, I do find it a little like I shouldn't, but like, what is going on with like the younger generation? They're, they're doing all these things at a much lower frequency.

Like they're drinking less, they're having less sex. They're having like, it is, it kind of goes back to what we were just talking about. Like there's like very healthy things about that. But there are. Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I, I, I do find it a little like I shouldn't, but like, what is going on with like the younger generation? They're, they're doing all these things at a much lower frequency. Like they're drinking less, they're having less sex. They're having like, it is, it kind of goes back to what we were just talking about.

Like there's like very healthy things about that. But there are. Speaker A: But then there's Twitch and then it gets a little spooky. Spooky, you know? Speaker C: Yeah. And then there's isolation. Speaker A: My issue is like, what are you doing? Speaker C: Exactly. If you're not doing those things, yeah, but what are you doing then? Speaker A: And I think the answer is scrolling in some form or another. Speaker C: I know, it's not good. Speaker A: It'll snap back, I think. Speaker B: There's— I mean, everyone has all the— and then there's a scrolling, there's the being afraid of having a photo of you posted online of you making a fool out of yourself.

Yeah, everyone's really afraid of that. I guess I'm not that afraid of it. Speaker A: Well, that's because we're not afraid of it because We literally say dumb shit 3 hours a week. Speaker B: But we've, we've had the trial by fire. We've had the photo of us, you know, cross-eyed drunk posted on some social media and we had a laugh and had some Advil and moved on with our lives versus it driving us to suicide. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: Chris and I, our age, like we're old enough now.

So people are like, tell us stories of what it was like in 2004. Speaker A: You know, like you're saying, you're saying MIA was popular and you could do coke and there was no fentanyl in it. Speaker B: Like, this is— Speaker A: this sounds sick. Speaker C: I know. Oh, well, that obviously— that's a huge piece too. Speaker B: Chris and I, our age, like we're old enough now. So people are like, tell us stories of what it was like in 2004. Speaker A: You know, like you're saying, you're saying MIA was popular and you could do coke and there was no fentanyl in it.

Speaker B: Like, this is— Speaker A: this sounds sick. Speaker C: I know. Oh, well, that obviously— that's a huge piece too. Speaker A: Yeah, no, definitely. I think that is— I do think that's real. But I also— Speaker B: everyone is like, when I guess when we were in our 20s, we had an everything's gonna work out probably kind of thing. And kids nowadays are like, I don't have time to socialize, you know. The housing market is shit, the job market is shit. Yeah, the impending— Speaker C: the world is, is gonna blow up anyway.

Like, there's a lot It's a lot of pessimism. Speaker B: Yeah, so we don't have time for any of this tomfoolery. I need to get my 401 going. I need to start thinking about what happens when the global economy collapses and my bunker has enough Libby's canned fruit in it to last me through winter. Speaker A: Goddamn it. Exactly. What would you do without it, Jason? What would you do without it? Speaker B: And alcohol is freaking bad for your cortisol receptors and your circadian rhythms. Speaker A: I know. Speaker C: It's like, stop telling us these things.

Speaker B: And then, but then Andrew Tate is getting his dick sucked with a bottle of tequila on his lap, and they were like, so how come he can do it but I can't do it? My brain is scrambled. Time to shoot a school. Speaker A: Oh, I finally read it. I finally read a good story about all that, that manosphere stuff, but I can't listen to it anymore. I can't, I can't like hear about it. Speaker A: Oh, I finally read it. I finally read a good story about all that, that manosphere stuff, but I can't listen to it anymore.

I can't, I can't like hear about it. Speaker C: Did you watch the doc, the Louis Theroux doc? Speaker A: Yeah, well, we talked about it. We watched it, and I was just sort like, I mean, if you're online, you're like sort of know all of this. Like, I think, I think the most interesting part was how they interacted with him because they were like sort of scared of him. Yeah, that was the biggest takeaway for me. Speaker C: Yes. Speaker A: Um, that they sort of turned the swag down when this like dorky British guy came around.

Like, they didn't know how to handle him, which is a testament to how good he is. I think that's like the whole point is to disarm, is to disarm. But yeah, I don't, um, I don't— because you, I mean, you, you work with a toxic man, so I'm sure you deal with this all the time. Speaker C: I'm sure you deal with this all the time through this conversation What I'm realizing is I work with you. You— everything, you, you are— do you— you don't listen, it sounds like, but you're him.

Speaker A: Oh, we've all listened. We're not— fuck, come on, we all listen. Speaker B: There's, there's definitely a narcissism of small differences in play with— Speaker A: look, we're going to be honest with you, Monica, we get a little jealous when the people that do exactly what we do but they make 100 times the money. It's, it's no, it's not personal. It's— I'm happy for you, you know, I'm happy for Dax, I'm happy for the whole family. Speaker C: Family. Speaker A: I'm just— actually, you're not the problem. Smartless is the problem.

That's the real problem. Speaker C: I'm gonna stay quiet. Speaker A: Uh, no, no, I'm saying that for us. I'm saying I have nothing to do with you. Speaker B: Are you guys still beefing with Smartless? Why do you want to stay quiet? Speaker A: No, we don't have to be— if you don't have to beef down, that's the key. That's when you're on top, you don't got to beef down. Speaker C: I'm gonna stay quiet. Speaker A: Uh, no, no, I'm saying that for us. I'm saying I have nothing to do with you.

Speaker B: Are you guys still beefing with Smartless? Why do you want to stay quiet? Speaker A: No, we don't have to be— if you don't have to beef down, that's the key. That's when you're on top, you don't got to beef down. Speaker C: That's right, that's right. Speaker B: Here's a follow-up question: do you think Dax's arms have become too big for the chair nowadays? Speaker C: Oh, him and I, we talk about this all the time. Time. Um, he's, he's enormous. He's just enormous. Um, he understands. He, he, he knows it.

It's not that he's blind to it. Speaker A: He knows it because he's trying to look like that. Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Speaker B: Um, look, all of us who have body dysmorphia know it. Speaker A: I love the idea of him being like, wait, shit, I'm like huge. Oh, Monica, why didn't you tell me? Speaker C: Yeah, he said, he's like, I think I'm ready to like, you know, go down a little bit or whatever, lean out. Exactly. But, um, this is the problem. I see it every time we have a male guest.

Every time they— the first thing they say, oh my God, man, you, you are Chad. What are you doing? Like, and look, the truth is, if someone— if every time we recorded, the woman was like, oh my God, like, what are you doing to your skin? What are you doing to your hair? I'd be like, I'm never changing. I have never changed. Speaker B: Oh, that's a— Speaker A: this is a really— this is a really great point. Speaker B: So when Brad Pitt sits on across the, the room from you and compliments your body, why on earth would you ever do something different?

Speaker C: Why would you? Like, he's getting all the validation. Speaker B: Oh, that's a— Speaker A: this is a really— this is a really great point. Speaker B: So when Brad Pitt sits on across the, the room from you and compliments your body, why on earth would you ever do something different? Speaker C: Why would you? Like, he's getting all the validation. Speaker B: And if Hailey Bieber is like, Monica, please tell me your skincare routine because you're absolutely glowing, you wouldn't change a thing? Speaker C: Not a thing.

Speaker A: This is very logical. Speaker B: I'd be like, I'm doing life for Right, put the sperm salmon on auto-subscribe at that point, probably. Speaker A: This is very— this is— this is very logical, actually, and I, I had not— I had not considered this at all. Speaker C: Oh, he says this all the time. He's like, having like a body like this or muscles or working out, he's like, it's for men. Speaker A: Oh, we say that. We said working— men work out for men. Women don't care about that shit.

Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I, I disagree. Speaker C: You work out for ladies. Speaker A: He's different. He's big in a man way, but if you get big in like an actor way, it's gay. Speaker B: I get— yeah, I think it applies to shorter people. I'm, I'm 6'9", so I've never felt the to impress men. Speaker C: Oh, interesting. Speaker A: I'm not saying I'm trying to impress men. I'm saying that women are not impressed. Exactly. Speaker C: Yeah, well, it's kind of both. Speaker B: That's false. That's so— Speaker A: no, it's 100%.

They don't— I'm saying like maybe from an optic, but I'm saying they don't— women would much rather be rich than have a fucking 8-pack, 100%. Speaker B: I mean, luckily we don't have to make that A/B decision. Speaker A: I don't, I don't personally, but there might be somebody out there that I never will have to deal with that. But there's some people— Speaker B: I think women enjoy a man with a good muscular color body, and I don't think that's ever going to go out of style, Chris. Speaker A: I think— I know, I think they do, but I think what I'm saying is that the way women dress for women, men dress for men, work out for men is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker A: I don't, I don't personally, but there might be somebody out there that I never will have to deal with that. But there's some people— Speaker B: I think women enjoy a man with a good muscular color body, and I don't think that's ever going to go out of style, Chris. Speaker A: I think— I know, I think they do, but I think what I'm saying is that the way women dress for women, men dress for men, work out for men is what I'm trying to say. Speaker C: It's like a status thing amongst you guys.

But I agree that like in, in both ways, like when you see a woman like who didn't clearly didn't brush her hair for the past like 8 days, it's like, eh, Like, well, I don't know. I'm not going to speak for you, but my guess is you're going to be like, oh no. And same with a woman seeing a man who maybe has not taken care of himself. Speaker A: I think the taking care of him— I think you're right. Taking care of yourself and being like an absolute freak, creatine, TRT.

Speaker C: Yeah, that's different. Speaker B: Mm-hmm. Speaker C: But it is time for me to tell you, I did start taking creatine. Speaker A: It's popular for women now. Thank God. Speaker C: I love it. Speaker B: It's actually for my like neuro stuff. Speaker C: Yes, cognitive. I'm firing Monica. Speaker A: Which sponsor? Which sponsor sent you this? Speaker C: Um, Thorne. Speaker A: Okay, great. Speaker C: Good. Speaker A: Yeah, Thorne. Speaker C: Actually, they're not a sponsor, but I really wish they would be. Speaker B: I take Thorne creatine as well.

Speaker C: It's good. Speaker A: You guys taking the— you all— you all taking the Startup creatine? Y'all taking the Podcast creatine? Speaker B: Uh, my hubbies, my Huberman pow pow. Speaker A: Does he make his own? Speaker B: No, but he— I mean, I'm sure he probably has his own line. Speaker C: Actually, they're not a sponsor, but I really wish they would be. Speaker B: I take Thorne creatine as well. Speaker C: It's good. Speaker A: You guys taking the— you all— you all taking the Startup creatine? Y'all taking the Podcast creatine?

Speaker B: Uh, my hubbies, my Huberman pow pow. Speaker A: Does he make his own? Speaker B: No, but he— I mean, I'm sure he probably has his own line. Speaker A: He's a Thorne advocate. Speaker B: Yeah, he's spoken positively about Thorne. I mean, it is. It's the expensive one that looks scientific. I buy that shit all day long. Speaker C: Yeah, good packaging. Speaker A: Sure, I love, I love good packaging. Speaker B: But yeah, I think, I think you, I think you, you present your body and your, and your hair and your, your clothes and everything subconsciously or not to attract who you want to attract.

And I just happen to be into women, so that's who I'm dressing for and adjusting my body for. Speaker A: All right, bro, that's— pull out that leather vest you bought for a second, show it to Monica. Speaker B: Hey, let me just move my air max out of the way. Speaker C: Oh, that's— oh wow. And do you pair those two together? Speaker B: Hopefully on my OnlyFans. Speaker A: Yeah, this is what I'm trying to say. That's, that's so funny that you had that there. I thought you'd gotten rid of it by now.

I'm glad that really— that really worked, Monica. I didn't know if you had it, Monica. That was like— Speaker B: no, that's, you know, when you hang up that dress that's too big for you— I mean, too small for you— as like little inspo. Speaker A: That's good. Speaker B: Do that with my vest because I have a little like under titty fat that pokes out because it's too small for me. Okay, so as soon as the under titty fat stops poking out, I will— I'll be happy with Monica. Speaker A: You know how it is, you know, You've never been properly fitted for a bra and then you finally get it and you're like, oh my God, I can't believe how well this fits.

This is crazy. I had no idea. Changed my life. Speaker A: You know how it is, you know, You've never been properly fitted for a bra and then you finally get it and you're like, oh my God, I can't believe how well this fits. This is crazy. I had no idea. Changed my life. Speaker C: You should do ads for like Skims. That sounds perfect. Speaker A: We do. Speaker B: We actually do do ads for Skims. Speaker C: Skims is great. Speaker A: I can't wear it. I can't. It's really well done and I love the stores and I love the whole thing, but it's a mental block.

Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: It has nothing to do with the product. Speaker B: Oh really? The product is good. It doesn't feel masculine enough. It feels like a little bit a little still too like lingerie. I think that's a struggle for women's workout clothing coded. Speaker A: It's— well, it's very easy for a, uh, men's brand to make— introduce women's, you know what I mean? To me, in my mind, it's like a much easier way to go. I think most men are like— think of Skims as stuff for their chick who watches Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

And even— Speaker C: right, but then they— Speaker A: but the product is good. It's fine. They're, they're doing just fine. But I'm just— I just mean, I think it's harder to go that way than the other way. Speaker C: Yeah, you're right. Speaker B: I'm seeing some through lines with your thoughts on we present our body, who we present our body for, Chris. Speaker A: I don't. Speaker B: There's just something. Speaker A: I don't. I'm perfectly clear on my statements and I won't be walking any of them back.

And I never, you know, I never walk my statements back. Speaker B: I don't want you to walk them back. I just want you to see the through lines of you thinking that you, you have your nice muscles for men and men only, but you don't want to wear the women's coded masculine underwear. Speaker A: Oh, I see. No, I would just, bro, I would just wear a thong. Speaker C: But that's maybe still about men. He doesn't want men to think he's like a little like, um, fairy. Speaker A: Oh, I see.

No, I would just, bro, I would just wear a thong. Speaker C: But that's maybe still about men. He doesn't want men to think he's like a little like, um, fairy. Speaker A: No, Monica, no, they all think I'm gay already. There's nothing I could do. There's no amount of underwear I could wear or not wear that would change the narrative on my sexuality, for better or worse. Speaker C: Wait, so you're 6'9"? Tell me about what it's like to be 6'9" in the world. Speaker B: Hmm. Well, I would say, you know, a lot of doors open up for you being really tall.

But, you know, it is also a handicap that nobody has sympathy for. Okay, buying clothes, shoes. Okay, sitting in cars, airplanes. You know, 99% of the time, whatever situation I'm in is uncomfortable for me. So hitting your head on doorways, sitting on couches that are made for regular people, washing your hands at sinks that are knee-length. Okay, things like that. Speaker C: That's really hard. Speaker A: I know, it's so hard. It's so tough. Speaker B: But then men want to be you and women want to fuck you, so it kind of all evens out on the wall.

Speaker C: And it has nothing— Speaker B: unless you're like really ugly and stupid, right? Speaker C: But I bet even still— Speaker A: well, we'll make it work. We'll find a way. Speaker B: Yeah, you get points on the board even still. Speaker A: I don't— I mean, I, I do think Jason suffers in silence, and I'm glad that How Long Gone has given him a platform to talk about it too, you know what I mean? Speaker C: It's a good place to be vulnerable. Speaker A: He hasn't even talked about— he hasn't even mentioned how he lives on stolen land.

We're gonna get into that in hour 2, so it's a little It's tough for him. It's tough for him today. Speaker B: Luckily I have some native blood, so I don't have to. Speaker C: It's a good place to be vulnerable. Speaker A: He hasn't even talked about— he hasn't even mentioned how he lives on stolen land. We're gonna get into that in hour 2, so it's a little It's tough for him. It's tough for him today. Speaker B: Luckily I have some native blood, so I don't have to. Speaker A: Yeah, you're fine.

Speaker B: So I'm the one that people acknowledge too. Not, I don't, the acknowledge is incoming, not outgoing. Speaker A: Monica, let's talk. I want to talk about how much you prepare when you, because we don't prepare that much. That's sort of our whole thing. Jason prepares more than me. I'm, I will, if it's a book I would read normally, I will read it. If it's a show, I would, you know what I mean? If it's something I'm interested in, I'm going to, I'm going to do it because I would do it anyway.

Anyway, what is, what is your policy? And does it, or does a producer hand you some cards and you're ready to rock? Speaker C: No. So we're kind of in a— we do a sort of weird thing. So Dax is the host and I co-host, but not in like, not in an even way. Like, it's his show and I come in. And so he does a lot of research, um, all on his own, and I kind of chime in as the audience in some ways. So like, sure, sure, you know, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense, so I'm gonna ask, or just whatever, if I have an organic question.

But I'm not coming in with any necessarily prep questions. Sometimes I do, but I'll tell him ahead of time, like, I want to ask this because something— Speaker A: no, but it's Sofia Coppola, I have to ask her. Speaker C: Well, for real, it's like, okay, this is a fashion person, like, we got— Speaker A: I— Speaker C: it's, it's my turn, like, we're talking. But he does have like kind of arc, you know, he has like a thing. So, you know, we discussed that a bit so it doesn't like go completely off the rails.

If— but, but we're also— we, we kind of— yeah, we do it. But he, he does a lot of research. He does a lot. Speaker A: no, but it's Sofia Coppola, I have to ask her. Speaker C: Well, for real, it's like, okay, this is a fashion person, like, we got— Speaker A: I— Speaker C: it's, it's my turn, like, we're talking. But he does have like kind of arc, you know, he has like a thing. So, you know, we discussed that a bit so it doesn't like go completely off the rails.

If— but, but we're also— we, we kind of— yeah, we do it. But he, he does a lot of research. He does a lot. Speaker B: Is the arc that you're talking about sort of the very popular arc that a lot of podcasts do, which is let's start from the start, life story, where it just grew? Speaker C: Stole that from us, just FYI. Speaker B: So you guys invented interviewing people? Speaker C: We invented starting from the start. Speaker A: Starting— yeah, let's just get— let's just start Okay, so where were you born?

It's funny because I hate that part of anything. Like any book about childhood, I'm like, skip those chapters, I don't give a fuck about this. Like, let's start when it gets interesting. And I, I feel like I'm really in the minority on that because I think most people's childhoods are pretty mundane or tragic, two things I'm not super interested in hearing about, you know what I mean? Oh, I'm pretty interested in hearing about tragedies because you, because you think it informs the rest. Speaker C: Well, exactly. And it does. Speaker A: It does.

Speaker C: I mean, it does. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: And you're a true crime shorty too, so give you a little darkness. You like that, probably. Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want to— yeah, I want— I do think people want to know, like, why, why is this person who they are? I mean, that's sort of our whole premise. Even when we have experts on, um, we'll start there. But because really it's like, what made get— go to school for 85 years? Like, not most people don't do that.

So there's a reason, you know. And I do think we start at the start, but it pretty quickly goes to like, so what's your relationship with your dad? You know, like, it's, it's not— Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want to— yeah, I want— I do think people want to know, like, why, why is this person who they are? I mean, that's sort of our whole premise. Even when we have experts on, um, we'll start there. But because really it's like, what made get— go to school for 85 years?

Like, not most people don't do that. So there's a reason, you know. And I do think we start at the start, but it pretty quickly goes to like, so what's your relationship with your dad? You know, like, it's, it's not— Speaker B: okay. Speaker C: Yeah, we want it. We want the good stuff. Speaker A: But people, I think people come in, people come in ready to bust it wide open. Speaker C: They do. Speaker A: You have to be prepared. Speaker B: Kleenex already. Speaker C: We get some clean.

Speaker A: But when you get a dud, how do you push through. Speaker C: Yeah, so there does have to be a lot of like pivoting because some people just don't want to get personal at all. Speaker A: Some people— no, some people suck. It ain't about getting personal. Some people are just bad at it. Speaker B: Well, I think some people suck, but also some people are like, I want to come on a podcast like, you know, Amy Poehler's or whatever, where we're gonna hang out and laugh and look at internet videos and you're gonna compliment me and, you know, I'm gonna go get lunch and that's it, versus the, the trope of like, I'm the podcast host, you're doing me a favor by coming on my show, I'm gonna make money off of you, here's a microphone, tell me your life story for 4 hours, and, and me and my co-hosts are going to be like, wow, that's crazy.

Speaker C: Yeah, so I mean, I think that we do a good— I hope, um, a good job of a mix. Like, it's a, it's a lot. It is mostly conversation. In fact, sometimes I think it's too much. It's like we got to get back to whatever, like we're talking, it's— we're off the rails or we're too much on us. Like, you know, we talk about us too. Like, it's very back and forth, as you should. Speaker C: Yeah, so I mean, I think that we do a good— I hope, um, a good job of a mix.

Like, it's a, it's a lot. It is mostly conversation. In fact, sometimes I think it's too much. It's like we got to get back to whatever, like we're talking, it's— we're off the rails or we're too much on us. Like, you know, we talk about us too. Like, it's very back and forth, as you should. Speaker A: The problem is that's what people actually want, at least in our— I mean, to some extent. Yeah, I think there's a little bit of like the guest is, is sort of— Speaker C: yeah.

Speaker B: Do you consider your show to be a talent-driven show or a host-driven show? Speaker C: That's a good question. Speaker A: Okay, Jason, come in here. All right. Relax, Jason doesn't work for Spotify. He sounds like the feds. Speaker B: Well, I mean, you guys, you guys do episodes without guests. Speaker C: Well, we know our fact checks don't have guests, but everything else has a guest. Oh, I mean, we have a show on Fridays where we talk to listeners. I guess I would say it's host-driven then. I think the fact that also we have such a loyal, um, you know, audience that they don't always— they really care who it is.

We'll get extra people, obviously, for the people that are, you know, but our, our audience— Speaker A: yeah, yeah, come. Speaker C: I do think you're right. Maybe it comes for us. Speaker B: They'll listen to Jen Aniston and Jenny Garth, and the downloads will be about the same. Obviously, Aniston get a little bigger bump, but that, that does mean that you are host-led if people will listen to it sort of regardless of who the guest is. Speaker A: I think that's the biggest misconception about podcasting is that the, the guest is such a— it's like, it's fun for us because we get to talk to them and it's like interesting for us and we try to have fun with it.

But the audience, it's, it's just the audience, I don't think it— based on numbers, the audience cares a little bit, right? I don't think that's the majority of the reason that they're tuning in a couple times a week or whatever. Speaker A: I think that's the biggest misconception about podcasting is that the, the guest is such a— it's like, it's fun for us because we get to talk to them and it's like interesting for us and we try to have fun with it. But the audience, it's, it's just the audience, I don't think it— based on numbers, the audience cares a little bit, right?

I don't think that's the majority of the reason that they're tuning in a couple times a week or whatever. Speaker C: Well, I also like, as a listener of podcasts, I, I like tuning into the hosts. Like, I'm not there for a guest of a podcasts, often the ones where people are just two people chatting the whole time, those are my favorite. It's like, under— because that's the parasocial piece. Speaker B: You're gonna love How Long Gone, Monica. I gotta say, you gotta check out How Long Gone. Speaker C: I'm gonna have to check it out.

Speaker B: Check it out. Look, I've listened to your fucking podcast, listen to mine. Speaker A: Yeah, this is bullshit. Why are you even here? What the fuck is the problem? We've all listened to yours. Speaker C: I heard, I heard one of you on Um, on Lauren Sherman's podcast. Speaker A: Okay, are you, are you a Shermanator? Yeah, you're a fashion person. Speaker C: I love fashion. Speaker A: Okay, I do love fashion. So you listen to Lauren? Shout out to Lauren. Okay, you heard one of us on Lauren's show, but you've never listened to How Long Gone?

You're just aware of the name of the show? Speaker C: Well, right, because when you guys were— someone was on there and I was like, oh yeah, and then so they must be— she anointed you. I was like, well, they must be cool. Speaker A: Okay, I'll take it. I appreciate, I appreciate the honesty actually, because I, if I— I mean, I don't listen to anybody's shit. It's fucking boring, you know? Speaker C: I mean, well, listen, I also edit our show. I am like, I am— I don't have time.

I just, I can't. Speaker A: Okay, I'll take it. I appreciate, I appreciate the honesty actually, because I, if I— I mean, I don't listen to anybody's shit. It's fucking boring, you know? Speaker C: I mean, well, listen, I also edit our show. I am like, I am— I don't have time. I just, I can't. Speaker A: Oh, I didn't realize you edited the show. Speaker C: I edit our show, content edit. So I make, you know, I'm in charge of what stays and what goes. Speaker A: Okay, so when Dax has got his third needle in his ass in the morning, you're fucking on the computer making it all happen.

Speaker B: So like, you, you are physically editing, like in— Speaker C: I used to edit in Audition. Now that we're on video, I get the video made and I make timestamp on io edits. Speaker B: io? Speaker C: Yeah. Speaker A: We're familiar io. Speaker B: Okay, well, yeah, I mean, I edit this podcast and we are starting to dabble in video, so I'm trying to teach myself Adobe Premiere right now. Not as easy as audio, but we're getting there. Speaker A: Monica, I didn't know, I didn't know that.

That's cool. Speaker C: Thank you. Speaker A: And that— well, I just— I want to be clear that you're earning your keep, you know what I mean? You're not— thank you. I mean, you were underselling yourself as this, like, oh, I'm just— because you're— honestly, you're doing, like, the hard work. Speaker C: Oh yeah, I also produce the show. Yeah, I mean, I don't— like, there's— there are 3 of us. It's Dax, me, and Rob. We— and we do the whole thing. Speaker A: So, I mean, that's kind of us.

I mean, this— me and Jason basically do the whole thing. It's not the same. Speaker C: Yeah, it's a lot of— I mean, it's a full— we have 3 shows a week, and it Same, Chico. Speaker A: I didn't expect to find the— I didn't expect to find so many similarities. Speaker A: So, I mean, that's kind of us. I mean, this— me and Jason basically do the whole thing. It's not the same. Speaker C: Yeah, it's a lot of— I mean, it's a full— we have 3 shows a week, and it Same, Chico.

Speaker A: I didn't expect to find the— I didn't expect to find so many similarities. Speaker B: I have to, I have to just a couple of Eastside LA podcasters making 3 episodes a week. You, you hit 1,000 episodes not too long ago. We're at like 930. So we're— we are more— we are more alike than we realize. So if you are like the— if, if your podcast is the Ted Lasso of podcasts, you know, sort of earnest maxing, what, what would you say we are? Speaker C: I don't love that, but okay.

Speaker B: It's not my favorite analogy, but Ted Lasso is a very popular, critically acclaimed, award-winning show. Speaker C: But okay, well, go on. Speaker B: Why do you— Speaker C: what do you— Speaker B: based on how, you know, the last hour of conversation— Speaker C: oh, I think— Speaker B: are we, are we DTF St. Louis? Oh, are we Mad Men rewatch? You know, you guys, Friends and Neighbors. I'm giving ham, right? Speaker C: You're not giving ham. Yeah, you're not. He's so much shorter than you. Speaker B: That's right, that's the only main difference.

Speaker A: Huge difference. Speaker C: Yeah, you guys are, you guys are gritty. Um, you are not afraid, you're not, uh, you're not afraid to like put people in weird positions. Speaker A: You're like, we didn't put you in any weird positions. Speaker C: Yeah, you guys are, you guys are gritty. Um, you are not afraid, you're not, uh, you're not afraid to like put people in weird positions. Speaker A: You're like, we didn't put you in any weird positions. Speaker C: No, no, I'm kidding. Also, but I I mean, I do, I do this, like, we do this.

We, we talk about— Speaker A: oh no, we could, we could have picked— no, we could have pinned your little ass to the wall if we wanted to. We did. We chose not to. Speaker C: Wow. Speaker A: We chose not to. Speaker C: Do you do that to people? Speaker B: Are you mean to people if they deserve it? Speaker A: I mean, occasionally. I just think that if you're a— if somebody's a dud, they're sort of choosing to be a dud, and therefore they deserve a little, a little ribbing.

Speaker B: Yeah, a little bit of— yeah, you come into the square and you are a dud, or you're an asshole, or you just have a bad attitude attitude, we're gonna, you know, do a little public flogging of you on the, on the Spotify world stage. Speaker A: Jason, I always say this, we'd be doing this with or without you, so you can either get down or lay down. Like, I like— right, get with the program and let's have fun, or you can leave. It's like, what's the, what's the point for everybody at that?

Speaker C: Have you ever had anyone on who you feel like you guys are walking and you're like, oh my God, like, I'm nervous, like, this is a big guest, and, and like, we do need to make sure we're doing something a little— has that ever happened? Speaker B: Other than you, not really. Speaker A: Nah, nah. Speaker B: While. Speaker A: I mean, I would say there's certain musicians that I have a great reverence for, but I wasn't— I wasn't like— it was like a respect thing. It wasn't like a nerves thing, if that makes sense.

It's like this thing, like XYZ has been part of my life for so long that this feels like a real full circle thing. Johnny Marr from The Smiths, or, you know, we're gonna have the same conversation probably, but like there is a little bit of— you know what it is? I think that like that level of person has no idea and doesn't care who you are, which I appreciate appreciate. Whereas we're talking to some of these like writers and media people and fellow, you know, there's a little bit of like tit for tat, like I know what you guys are up to.

Whereas with, with fucking Richard Ashcroft, he's like, what time is it, where am I? But oh, what's up guys, you know? Speaker B: Other than you, not really. Speaker A: Nah, nah. Speaker B: While. Speaker A: I mean, I would say there's certain musicians that I have a great reverence for, but I wasn't— I wasn't like— it was like a respect thing. It wasn't like a nerves thing, if that makes sense. It's like this thing, like XYZ has been part of my life for so long that this feels like a real full circle thing.

Johnny Marr from The Smiths, or, you know, we're gonna have the same conversation probably, but like there is a little bit of— you know what it is? I think that like that level of person has no idea and doesn't care who you are, which I appreciate appreciate. Whereas we're talking to some of these like writers and media people and fellow, you know, there's a little bit of like tit for tat, like I know what you guys are up to. Whereas with, with fucking Richard Ashcroft, he's like, what time is it, where am I?

But oh, what's up guys, you know? Speaker C: Yeah. And then he could just be real. Yeah, yeah. Speaker B: Whereas Lorde is like, she knows what we're gonna do and how we're gonna try to get her. Speaker A: And then, yeah, a lot of people— Speaker B: guy from Pavement is just like, what is this? Speaker A: Yeah, it's like, but the what is this is kind of a perfect situation for us, honestly. The what is this usually works in our favor when all said and done. Speaker B: Yeah, but I, I, I actually, I thought of one or two of them recently, two recent episodes that, or I got a little excited and like, I want to make sure I do a good job.

Rachel Zoe and Nicole Richie. Speaker C: Oh yeah, that's great. Speaker B: Two queens. Speaker A: But they were both like too easy, sort of, because they're actually cool. Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Speaker B: Super awesome, Monica. Well, thank you for, um, taking the time to chat with us. In our busy podcast schedules. Speaker B: Two queens. Speaker A: But they were both like too easy, sort of, because they're actually cool. Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Speaker B: Super awesome, Monica. Well, thank you for, um, taking the time to chat with us.

In our busy podcast schedules. Speaker C: This was fun. Speaker A: Yeah, we appreciate it. We really do. Thank you. And go Dawgs, etc. Speaker C: Go Dawgs. Go Duluth. Speaker A: Okay, that's enough. Speaker C: Go Backyard Bowls. Speaker A: Go back. Now we're talking. If I had a team, it'd be called the Bowls. Speaker B: Do you ever get the chocolate chip cookie at Lazy Acres? Speaker C: I have had it. Why does it taste so good? It's so good. Speaker B: They have it on a heating tray 24 hours a day.

The cookie is always warm. The chocolate chips are always gooey whenever they're not frozen. Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know Lazy Acres was 7-Eleven. Speaker B: During their open hours, there's always warm cookies plump for the taking and a great selection of dairy there. Speaker C: I'm with you on that. Chris, you got to get yourself— after you get your $16— Speaker A: Well, Brooke, you get a chocolate chip cookie to kind of top it off. Speaker C: Oh, that sounds like a delight. Speaker A: Big East Side day. Speaker B: Yeah.

And the hot bar at Lazy Acres, they'll have some nice little tofu curries and some kind of more elevated vegetarian offerings for Chris. He's a vegetarian. Speaker A: I love elevated. I love elevated. Elevated. I love elevated offerings, you know that. Speaker B: I had a tofu curry last night, that's why it's fresh in the brain. Monica, we appreciate you. Speaker C: Thanks, guys. Speaker A: Thanks, Monica. We'll see you later. Speaker C: Have a good one. Speaker B: Bye. Speaker A: Let's raise! Speaker C: Thanks, guys. Speaker A: Thanks, Monica.

We'll see you later. Speaker C: Have a good one. Speaker B: Bye. Speaker A: Let's raise!