939. - Chris & Jason

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. How long gone? A beautiful Sunday in New York City. The sun is shining, the leaves are green. How many cigarettes did you smoke yesterday? Speaker B: Oh, me? 3 or 4 cigarettes only. Speaker A: Just 3 or 4? Yeah, that's light. It's honestly light work for your I'm glad that you haven't succumbed to the pressures of the Parisian people. Speaker B: Ooh, that's a nice triple P there. I have been a prickly Parisian person.

Speaker A: You've always been rude, so you've taken that, you ran with that one. That's what they're the best at over there. Speaker B: Yeah, they're very good at being rude, and they're also very good at accusing you of being rude, and it's like, hello? 'Cause it sounds so good when they say it. Speaker A: How rude! Pot kettle black. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm over here, I'm in the land of uncircumcised dick and butter that's so good. Really good butter here. Speaker B: Yeah, they're very good at being rude, and they're also very good at accusing you of being rude, and it's like, hello?

'Cause it sounds so good when they say it. Speaker A: How rude! Pot kettle black. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm over here, I'm in the land of uncircumcised dick and butter that's so good. Really good butter here. Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sure I could tell the difference. Um, I'm glad that you're— honestly, I'm glad that you upgraded your Lime membership. Everything's, everything's going— Speaker B: I didn't. Speaker A: No, I'm joking. There's— Speaker B: I— can you tell me more about what they offer? Because I'm considering it. Speaker A: I actually, I don't know what they offer.

I don't think it— I, I think it's like a— I think it's like an Uber One situation, you know, or like an Air One membership where you pay a fee to get a discount. And the idea is that, that the discount beats the fee at the end of the year, which I do think encourages use. And also, you know, obviously it's true depending on what you use. Speaker B: It encourages use and encourage, but they just like a gym membership, they hope that you don't use it. So it's free money.

Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: It also encourages zone 2 cardio, which we all need more of, don't we, Chris? Speaker A: I did some zone 2. Just don't worry about me. I was there. I was there this morning. 3 dubs on my zone 2. Speaker B: A rare dub, meaning 2 instead of a W. Wow. Who even are we? Yeah, it's funny. Speaking of the Lime bikes, Carolyn and I were walking around this morning and they have like the Lime bikes, but they also have like the bikes that are like competing bike rental companies.

Like in New York, you got the Citi Bike and that's about it, right? Speaker A: Yeah, they've pretty much taken over the market. Speaker B: But in European cities, they've got, you know, this is what the tourists ride and this is what the plugged-in locals ride. It's kind of a nice distinction because it shows like who, you know, if you're a driver and you know, like who knows the way the city's flowing and working and who is the out-of-towner who I have to look out for because they're riding the big green 300-pound electric motorcycle bicycle thingy.

Or is it the one where it's painted like some cool kind of subdued colors? Like a How Long Gone Instagram post. Speaker A: Yeah, they've pretty much taken over the market. Speaker B: But in European cities, they've got, you know, this is what the tourists ride and this is what the plugged-in locals ride. It's kind of a nice distinction because it shows like who, you know, if you're a driver and you know, like who knows the way the city's flowing and working and who is the out-of-towner who I have to look out for because they're riding the big green 300-pound electric motorcycle bicycle thingy.

Or is it the one where it's painted like some cool kind of subdued colors? Like a How Long Gone Instagram post. Speaker A: Unfortunately, all of the All of the bikes are ugly, but the Lime— the thing about Lime, you can truly leave it anywhere. Everything else, you got a dock. That's a pretty big difference. Speaker B: Oh, the dock difference is huge. Speaker A: I mean, the other option is you have your own bike and you carry around a lock. You know, you wear it around your chest like it's fucking San Francisco in 2004 and you're trying to shoot a M*A*S*H compilation.

But I don't know what else. Speaker B: Like one Bismarck key. Speaker A: I'm dealing with some bike stuff right now because they're doing this Five Borough ride thing today. And every idiot, you know, is out on their bike with a helmet and all their little trinkets to ride. It's like, dude, what do you do if you live in New York? Why on earth, if you don't have a child, why on earth would you do that? Like, I see the guys in the full MAP spandex with the fucking kit on, clipped in to ride a fourth of the speed they usually ride around 5.

For what? Like, to fuck up everybody's day? I just don't understand what the point of that is if you live in New York. Like, I really don't get it. Like, you really want to go to Staten Island? Who gives a shit? Speaker B: I got so excited when you said When you said I'm dealing with some bicycle-related trauma, I was like, oh, Chris finally up on two wheels. I like it. My brother is getting like me. Speaker A: And then now I'm trying to go, are they block off streets for this?

Like, get a life. Speaker B: You wouldn't get it, Chris. You don't, wouldn't you get a life? The happiness level when I'm on two instead of my two feet, it honestly changed. Like we were walking around for a couple hours this morning, just a little, you know, sun's poking out, a little breeze, little sprinkle. It's fine. And then, you know, she went to go link up with Sandy and hit a local café. And I was like, cool, I'm going to go home and go to sleep. And then as soon as I hopped on the bicycle and started riding through the city, my frown was turned upside down.

Everything in the— like, as soon as I'm like, if I'm walking around, I'm just like, this is stupid. Speaker A: Well, in Paris, you need— in Paris, you need that. In Paris, I need anything to turn my frown upside down. And I'm saying that. I'm saying that, that Riding a bike to get around is, I would say, the best, especially in a major metropolitan area, the absolute best way to get around. There's no question that it's the most efficient. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people getting their bike together to ride slowly in a pack across 5 boroughs for what purpose, I don't know.

That's what— this is not a commute. This isn't— this is like fake community building. And then I saw Zoran on fucking New York One when I was on the treadmill. This little bitch has a tie on. On his bike. Like, bro, dude, we know you're the governor and I know you're not gonna ride all 5 boroughs, but you can— come on, man, you could put on— you could put on a t-shirt, you know what I mean? You could— you could put on your dog's racist tee. Speaker B: When you're— when you're doing the— the 5 borough fun— fun run cruise, you're supposed to tie one on before.

You're supposed to get the fucking— the Coors Lights ripping, and then you just kind of cruise around the city with your woes. You're not supposed to, you know I want to put on the Drake's tie that you got for Christmas. Speaker A: He wishes he was in the— you know, he's in the skinny suit supply. He's in the skinny suit supply out there fucking making it work. Speaker B: It's going to give Jehovah if he's doing that on a bicycle. Speaker A: It gives— it very gives— it gives like, sir, where are you going when you die type questions.

I just don't understand. I just was— the whole thing is baffling to me. This happens because they do city streets, which is a similar thing where they just— it's an inconvenience for everyone. It blocks entire streets and people aren't— it's not even— I mean, I guess technically it's exercise. But I just don't know. I'm sure it's for charity. Maybe. I don't know what the actual point is. Okay. But if you're a real bike person, it's crazy to me to participate in that. That's all. Speaker B: I mean, you mentioned the community building and we do gripe about people creating communities that don't really exist in our definition of it.

Would you rather these people all find like a Discord server about this or, you know, is this a rare instance where the fake digital community you would prefer that over this physical IRL community that encourages— Speaker A: I don't think anyone's actually meeting people. I think you go there with your friend, you go there alone, and you ride your bike through the five boroughs, and you go home and tell your friends on Discord about it, is what I think is happening. Speaker B: I showed up with no pussy, I left with no pussy.

That's the life of a cyclist. Speaker A: I don't think anyone's actually meeting people. I think you go there with your friend, you go there alone, and you ride your bike through the five boroughs, and you go home and tell your friends on Discord about it, is what I think is happening. Speaker B: I showed up with no pussy, I left with no pussy. That's the life of a cyclist. Speaker A: Exactly. It's like going out in Bushwick. It's the same shit, man. It's the same shit. Speaker B: Shooters shoot and riders ride.

They say, please no pussy. Speaker A: Please no. But I— anyway, that's— I'm fine. I was able to, you know, I was able to wake up and watch Olivia Rodrigo on SNL, and I, you know, everything, everything from then has been downhill, Jason. You know how that goes. Speaker B: Oh, okay. So like nothing is living up to what you experienced with the double host duty and musical guest? Okay, I'm joking. I was gonna ask, I was gonna ask you, is, um, is Aziz Ansari— I mean, sorry, is, uh, is Zoran Mamdani II Indian that is bad at his job, him and Kash Patel.

Speaker A: No, I think that— Speaker B: and that was not— these are not my original thoughts. That's a reference to a joke that Aziz made on SNL last night. Okay. Speaker A: It's cool to— it's cool to be able to play a character on television just because of your race and that you can bulge your eyes out. Like, it's pretty cool. It's honestly sick. Speaker B: Like, pretty much got there. Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, all right, get Aziz, put him in a suit. He's the same. He's from the same country.

He originates from the same country as the guy we're making fun of. He can bulge his eyes and he can, like, read. Let's get him up there. But that's big for Aziz. Speaker B: We also don't 100% know if he was— if he's from the same country. That's the dark part. There's a— there's like, you know, 7 different countries where we would have been like, yeah, it works. Speaker A: Well, of course, of course. But I— but I mean, Kash Patel, I think Kash Patel— the thing about Kash Patel is even though he presents as Indian, he is like Florida.

So, you know what I mean? He's— his like— his like love for America has superseded wherever his people actually hail from. Which is a very strong thing to be able to do. Speaker B: We also don't 100% know if he was— if he's from the same country. That's the dark part. There's a— there's like, you know, 7 different countries where we would have been like, yeah, it works. Speaker A: Well, of course, of course. But I— but I mean, Kash Patel, I think Kash Patel— the thing about Kash Patel is even though he presents as Indian, he is like Florida.

So, you know what I mean? He's— his like— his like love for America has superseded wherever his people actually hail from. Which is a very strong thing to be able to do. Speaker B: He's bilingual. He's down low, down low Florida. Speaker A: Like, to be able to be like, I'm so into like Brad Paisley that I— you don't even— you think I'm from the Panhandle even though I am not— is powerful. Speaker B: I'd like to think that Kash Patel doesn't eat Indian food. Speaker A: Oh, hell no. Speaker B: I like to think that he thinks he finds it kind of disgusting.

Speaker A: No, unless they got some fucking— unless they got Indian food at Five Guys, he ain't eating it. There ain't no way. Kash Patel hasn't had Indian food in 20 years. Speaker B: Until the Five Guys biryani blaster meal, they haven't had that on the menu in some time. Speaker A: They've kind of recalibrated away. It wasn't working. But yeah, I saw a tweet this morning that said, welcome back, Aziz. We've been waiting for you. There's nothing wrong with being bad at fingering or whatever it is you got in trouble for.

So we got, we got Aziz, we got Aziz back on. I mean, he's, you know, he's cold open, bro. He's back. It was, it was honestly, it was nice to see. It was nice to see. Speaker B: Fingering or whatever. I mean, honestly, that did that little, you know, welcome back, like kind of positive message almost did more damage than whatever, whatever he originally did, which was definitely— well, I think I'm assuming take a girl to Four Horsemen and have a great convo. Speaker B: Fingering or whatever. I mean, honestly, that did that little, you know, welcome back, like kind of positive message almost did more damage than whatever, whatever he originally did, which was definitely— well, I think I'm assuming take a girl to Four Horsemen and have a great convo.

Speaker A: I mean, I think the real— Speaker B: you're going to get a little kiss. Let me get a kiss. Speaker A: The real problem with this Aziz thing is the website that where the essay was posted, net, no longer on the World Wide Web. So you have to go back to, you have to go to the Wayback Machine to look at this. Speaker B: You know what I mean? Speaker A: It's like, that's, that's so wild. Speaker B: Luckily we've got a lot of archivists in our community. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm sure we can track that down. Speaker A: Most of our archivists are, are, are unfortunately, you know, it's Comme des Garçons and Katherine Hammett, but there are some people that work more in the online space as well. Speaker B: No, no, no. You can buy an NFT of the com article. Don't worry. No, no, Jason. Speaker A: No, no, Jason. I wanna be very clear. It's com, net. Which makes it, makes it diabolically worse somehow. Speaker B: I love it. I love NET so much. And I love that one day we're all like, wait a minute, it's okay if it's

com. I don't have to spend $790,000 to com. Speaker A: See, I disagree actually. Speaker B: I think it's worth, I com is sort of like, yeah, that's onkslop that you're trying to spew into my mouth. Speaker A: It's worth it though. I think, I com, not, not worth $800 grand, but I'm saying, I think you're gonna take this onkslop and you're gonna like it. Speaker B: And I say, yes, sir. Speaker A: Bro, if you had xyz or something, you know what I'm saying? Speaker B: Bro, you already know that Squad had

info and, you know, I wasn't exactly sure how Media Temple works in terms of data transfers. I remember they sent me an invoice for like $7,000 one time because you're hosting so many remixes. Speaker B: And I say, yes, sir. Speaker A: Bro, if you had xyz or something, you know what I'm saying? Speaker B: Bro, you already know that Squad had info and, you know, I wasn't exactly sure how Media Temple works in terms of data transfers. I remember they sent me an invoice for like $7,000 one time because you're hosting so many remixes.

Speaker A: This one can stream the remix. Speaker B: The night where Daft Punk DJ'd at Cinespace, I had the foresight to bring in my little Zoom recorder, the very same one, not the exact one, but same that we record our podcast on. Oh wow. A little DJ mixer and I recorded the whole thing without their consent. Speaker A: I'm without their consent. I'm sure you didn't tap on those helmets and ask any questions. You just plug your shit in. Speaker B: I didn't pay them or give them consent. Ran into the homie Brodinsky last night.

Shout out to my old homies. Speaker A: You ran into Brodinsky on this. It feels like France itself, like weighing in, you know, like I got lucky. Speaker B: We'll get into that. Let me— so I would— I went on there and it was like a 4-hour mix. On, you know, I just put it up there and I was like, all these Zshare media, you know, it's a pain in the ass. I'm just going to throw it up. I could just put it on the website and then it'll drive traffic to

info. You know what I mean? Speaker A: Of course. Speaker B: I mean, this is, this is how it works. Speaker A: You're Steve Jobs at this point. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm feeling like Wozniak over here. This guy is killing it with the SEO. Speaker A: So DJ Woz in the booth. Speaker B: So, you know, this is a, this is, and also I'm a DJ purist and audiophile, so I can't give them just the cheap little, you know, super compressed, you know, this is for the audiophiles. This is a bunch of blacked out guys, you know, redlining MP3 files that were made in 2004.

We got to make sure that they have, you know, high resolution files. So all that is to say, I think like 78,000 people downloaded this mix from my Media Temple host or whatever. And they sent me a bill that was like $8,000. And I was like, I'm just going to wait till you guys go out of business. And then they did. Speaker A: Of course. Speaker B: I mean, this is, this is how it works. Speaker A: You're Steve Jobs at this point. Speaker B: Yeah, I'm feeling like Wozniak over here.

This guy is killing it with the SEO. Speaker A: So DJ Woz in the booth. Speaker B: So, you know, this is a, this is, and also I'm a DJ purist and audiophile, so I can't give them just the cheap little, you know, super compressed, you know, this is for the audiophiles. This is a bunch of blacked out guys, you know, redlining MP3 files that were made in 2004. We got to make sure that they have, you know, high resolution files. So all that is to say, I think like 78,000 people downloaded this mix from my Media Temple host or whatever.

And they sent me a bill that was like $8,000. And I was like, I'm just going to wait till you guys go out of business. And then they did. Speaker A: Every time I go to the doctor, I walk out of that bitch feeling dumb. I got no real info. This guy in a white coat just say, you're fine, you know, drink more water. Speaker B: He knows how to charge my copay. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: That's about it. Speaker A: As if I could drink more water, doctor. I don't get data.

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Do us a favor if you could and tell them How Long Gone sent you, and that'll just support us. Thanks. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often?

Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week. And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside.

But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And who couldn't use more news, especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Yeah, that's a— I'm not surprised knowing you what your tactic was to combat that. Speaker B: But it was not to lawyer up and figure out a little set. Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I'm glad that you made it out alive and they didn't. Because we, I mean, you know, there were so many of those things.

Any one of them would've gone out of business. Speaker B: Honestly, whenever I'm like driving around, like, you know, the Bay Area, Portland, or Marina Del Rey, you see like one of those kind of faded laser cut Media Temple stickers on the back of someone's Subaru, I get a little chuckle to myself. Speaker A: Of course you made it out, you got it out. That's like, that's like when they, they hit you with the $50,000 medical bill and you just tell them like, you got to find somebody else, bro, I ain't paying this.

Speaker B: You must got the wrong one today. Thank you for fixing my broken body. Thanks for piecing my leg back together. Speaker A: Eventually they'll give up. Eventually everyone— I mean, this is— but I told you the story about me and a few other people we know getting, getting, you know, those threatening letters from, from like Backgrid and those companies that own all the paparazzi photos, and you'd get these emails for using a picture of Justin Bieber on Twitter in 2014, and they're like, we own that, we're— you owe us $20,000.

And then you have to— I had to pay. Yeah, I had to pay somebody. Not crazy, like $1,000, but it's like they wouldn't go away. And I had a lawyer involved, and this happened to other people we know, and they had to pay a lot more. It's, it's insane. Yeah, it's crazy. Speaker B: It's funny. And it's so funny, what if they're like, hey, you cannot use this image Unless you retweet us, then it's totally fine. Speaker A: Yeah, we'll say, look, for a retweet, the coolest part is I believe that they won't even— even if it's watermarked, I think you still— which is crazy.

Oh, like if you got it watermarked, big bro, that's, that's— I mean, that's— Speaker A: Yeah, we'll say, look, for a retweet, the coolest part is I believe that they won't even— even if it's watermarked, I think you still— which is crazy. Oh, like if you got it watermarked, big bro, that's, that's— I mean, that's— Speaker B: you either pay or you mark, you don't do both. Speaker A: You can't do both. Exactly, exactly. But I think it's one of those things that— it's one of those— it feels like a phishing scam, like it feels fake when you get it.

Yeah, it feels fake. But I think this is like a full-time I mean, I think this is the kind of thing you can make a fortune doing because if you get, there's so many people, you know, illegally quote unquote using these images that if half of them pay you $1,000, you're making millions. It's like a, it's a, you have a full-time lawyer. This is their only job. That, I mean, it's a pretty good racket. Speaker B: In the, you know, in 18 months from now, it's just going to be AI clients from Backgrid and AI clients from Done to Death just fighting, you know, quietly fighting nonstop.

You never have to know about it. They never have to know about it. Speaker A: My favorite— Speaker B: you win some, you lose some. Speaker A: My favorite version of this is the thing in California where if they have to pay you, you know, I can't remember exactly what it is, but legally as a freelancer they have to pay you within 10 days or something of, of submitting the invoice. Like, oh really? Basically no one ever pays the invoice in this amount of time, and you can legally sue them and win.

And we know people that have made quite a lot of money doing that. Speaker B: So, so you're saying that Cali don't play with the net 30? Speaker A: No, like a lawyer will get in touch and be like, hey, I noticed you've worked with XYZ brands, like I know they late? Have they paid you late? And you're like, yeah, actually, actually, yeah, all of these giant mall brands have paid me late. Like, let's go after it. You get your 10% because it's free bands. It's like, yeah, if this works, it works.

If it doesn't, no sweat off my back because I'm not paying the lawyer. You know, he's coming to me. Speaker B: So, so you're saying that Cali don't play with the net 30? Speaker A: No, like a lawyer will get in touch and be like, hey, I noticed you've worked with XYZ brands, like I know they late? Have they paid you late? And you're like, yeah, actually, actually, yeah, all of these giant mall brands have paid me late. Like, let's go after it. You get your 10% because it's free bands.

It's like, yeah, if this works, it works. If it doesn't, no sweat off my back because I'm not paying the lawyer. You know, he's coming to me. Speaker B: And also it's guilt-free robbing from the rich, taking, you know, giving to the poor. You're, you're coming for Target and Walmart. You're not coming for Eckhaus Latta. Speaker A: No, no, no, you're not, you're not putting the table tennis hat— Callie Meyer out of business, you know what I mean? So it's an interesting— it is though, it's like there's, there's a lot of this stuff that like if you just pay attention, you know, there's bread to be made.

Unfortunately, we're the little guy in this situation usually. Speaker B: So, well, maybe we should— that could be a good How Long Gone angle for us where we go legal. We— have you or anyone you know been, uh, affected by Mad Happy not paying your net 90 on time? We, you know, just come from— Speaker A: exactly. Speaker B: Have you worked with Chinatown Market and they didn't pay? They paid you 32 days instead of 30? Speaker A: I know you worked that Rocky's Matcha pop-up. Did they pay you? Because I, you know, I know Rockies is an ally.

Speaker B: I don't want to take their money. Speaker A: No, I'm joking. I'm joking. Speaker B: I don't want to take their green. Speaker A: Okay. I saw— I saw recently— I saw an ad yesterday walking around New York, wheat pasting for a matcha liqueur that is dropping. And I was like, I was like, oh no. Speaker B: Well, I mean, actually, I'm kind of back. Speaker A: Stopped me in my tracks, though. I literally stopped and was like, am I seeing this correctly? Like, am I reading this correctly?

Because, I mean, I feel like matcha has invaded our treats. It's invaded our cups. Like, where does it— is there matcha lube? Is Emily Oberg working on matcha lube? Is there— is there like— what is there? Matcha hair care? Like, do we have a matcha hold gel? Like a hold, you know what I mean? Like, where does this— where does it stop? Is it only edible, I guess, is my question? Or do you think the scent of matcha could be anything? Speaker B: Well, I mean, actually, I'm kind of back.

Speaker A: Stopped me in my tracks, though. I literally stopped and was like, am I seeing this correctly? Like, am I reading this correctly? Because, I mean, I feel like matcha has invaded our treats. It's invaded our cups. Like, where does it— is there matcha lube? Is Emily Oberg working on matcha lube? Is there— is there like— what is there? Matcha hair care? Like, do we have a matcha hold gel? Like a hold, you know what I mean? Like, where does this— where does it stop? Is it only edible, I guess, is my question?

Or do you think the scent of matcha could be anything? Speaker B: Oh, well, I mean, like you said, I mean, I'm still laughing about they've invaded our treats. Speaker A: Bro, nothing. I mean, I don't mind. Speaker B: You said a lot of funny stuff after that. That was still funny. Speaker A: I don't mind a matcha tree. Speaker B: But when you said the matcha scent, you just, I mean, because all we're thinking about now, matcha is basically, you know, we're factoring all the senses. So you look at, I mean, the sight of matcha is the biggest selling factor because the flavor is down low.

You know, the vision of it, it doesn't sound very good. The flavor is not so good. The smell is maybe worse than the flavor. Speaker A: But when you're walking around with that Kermit in your cup, people see it. Speaker B: All that is to say, it's one of the only foods where the, you know, the visual display of it, the status symbol— Speaker A: you're right, actually— Speaker B: outweighs the product itself. It's like, this is not enjoyable to me, but I want to get— I get a little kick, I get a little caffeine hit off of people being like, they're drinking something green, that's nice.

Speaker A: I think it's— Speaker B: I think that women— Speaker A: I think that women drink matcha and carry it around partly because they think it makes them hotter. They're treating it like an accessory because it's been branded a hot chick beverage, because men obviously can't drink it. So it's— if a woman's drinking, I think it's like, oh, this is like a new bag, you know what I mean? This is an accessory to me. Speaker B: outweighs the product itself. It's like, this is not enjoyable to me, but I want to get— I get a little kick, I get a little caffeine hit off of people being like, they're drinking something green, that's nice.

Speaker A: I think it's— Speaker B: I think that women— Speaker A: I think that women drink matcha and carry it around partly because they think it makes them hotter. They're treating it like an accessory because it's been branded a hot chick beverage, because men obviously can't drink it. So it's— if a woman's drinking, I think it's like, oh, this is like a new bag, you know what I mean? This is an accessory to me. Speaker B: Like, oh, you drink your caffeine rituals brown? Speaker A: Oh, well, it's also like— but, you know, the other beverage I would say that says something very different, but it still says something, is when you see somebody with the 32-ounce Dunkin' that's, you know, 60% creamer.

I think that's the time— I think that's the only other time when a beverage speaks such volumes. Um, in the, in the caffeine space. Like, Diet Coke with lime is a different thing. That's, you know, whatever. Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, that sounds nice right now. Uh, the, uh, the Dunkin', where the coffee is more creamer and sugar than actual whatever, that is like one of the only examples of like America fighting back towards matcha. Like, it would— you're right, something like that to defeat matcha. Speaker A: Maybe I should, in protest, do I become a Dunkin' guy just, just out of spite for matcha?

Can I go that— because, you know, when I'm thinking about— think we need it. We need to talk to a barista. Any baristas, if you, if you work at a 5-star coffee place that has to offer matcha and you want to come talk to How Long Gone, let us know, because I want to know how annoying— Speaker B: blur your voice, we'll, you know, digitize everything. Speaker A: We'll make sure your boss at La Cabra doesn't know. But what is the— how, how awful must it be when you are slammed on a Saturday, line out the door, and you got to whip out a whisk instead of fucking pulling the cold brew tap?

What a nightmare that must— they should have upped salaries for all of these baristas once matcha became something they had to do. It's a totally different task. Speaker B: Maybe it is like a, they're a humiliation ritual of like, hey, this matcha, you know, this macadamia matcha is gonna be $14.75, but you're gonna pay for it because you get to watch me in my little cuck whisk. Speaker A: Mm-hmm. Speaker B: You know, with a line around the corner, people breathing down my neck. You get to watch me have a small panic attack as I, you know, quietly whisk.

But I, I think places like that, Most matcha outlets have sort of batched out their matcha juice concentrate. Speaker A: Sure, of course. Speaker B: But still, that's so much more. Speaker A: That's so much more. Speaker B: It is. Speaker A: But I think some places— Speaker B: well, now they got to do the cold foam humiliation ritual. Speaker A: The ultimate. I think some places don't. I think you're right. But I think other places don't because they want it. They want the visual of the— they want the customer to see the whisking.

Otherwise, it feels like it's Walmart matcha. Speaker B: It's part of the show. It's like when you go look at the SUVs, you know, in the, in the other corner of the, the lot, and they got the little rock thing set up where you get to drive the little— your ride, your X5 up on— I can go off-road. Speaker A: I can go off-road in this G-Wagon. I've never seen anyone do it, but I'm sure you can. I've never seen that. Speaker A: I can go off-road in this G-Wagon. I've never seen anyone do it, but I'm sure you can.

I've never seen that. Speaker B: I go bouldering in the, in the, in the orange, in the Hermes orange 1990 G-Wagon that cost me $147,000. Speaker A: I go sometimes, I go— the desert has rocks, so sometimes I run over something. Speaker B: I bought it off of Simi Haze. Yeah, I'm gonna do a lot I'm going up to J Tree and see if I can, you know. Speaker A: No, this is, this is Fye's personal color. Like he, he picked the Pantone. So this is, I did get upcharged for this a little bit.

Speaker B: He didn't invent it, but he developed it closely with our color specialists. Actually, speaking of coffee, that did remind me that as soon as I immediately touched down in Paris, grabbed a little coffee for the car ride, you know, it's an hour to the hotel or whatever from the airport. And then, you know, two, let me get two cold brews from Starbucks straight into the paper cup. Speaker A: No. Speaker B: But it's like the recycled paper cups. You can kind of feel it disintegrating while you feel it decomposing in your hands.

But also that's still better than London when you go and get an iced coffee and they're like, oh, we ran out. We only make four a day. Like it's their fucking heritage breed pork. Speaker A: The only place you can get cold brew in London is with my Muslim homies for $25 in Mayfair because they don't drink, or at fucking Blank Street. So you choose your poison. Yeah, you know what I mean? Speaker B: And they're both poison. Speaker A: I'm kicking it with my bros talking about the new Bentley rims.

If I have to choose, you know what I mean? If I have to choose. But I, you know, you got to go to Dreamin' Man. Dreamin' Man's the only good coffee in Paris. It really is the only— it's, it's unbelievable product, great pastries. Speaker B: And they're both poison. Speaker A: I'm kicking it with my bros talking about the new Bentley rims. If I have to choose, you know what I mean? If I have to choose. But I, you know, you got to go to Dreamin' Man. Dreamin' Man's the only good coffee in Paris.

It really is the only— it's, it's unbelievable product, great pastries. Speaker B: How matcha-y is this place, scale of 1 to 10? Speaker A: No, no, no, it's like serious coffee shit. I mean, you can get matcha, of course, but it's like serious coffee. Shit. Speaker B: It's not like 10. Well, how matcha-y is it? Speaker A: I don't think of it like that. I'm going to say 5. I mean, I'm sure they have Rocky's Matcha. Do not get me wrong, but I'm just saying that it doesn't feel matcha first like a lot of places do now, I would say.

Speaker B: So like, would me walking around with the Dreamin' Man uniquely shaped plastic cup with the matcha inside of it, is that a status symbol of me walking around or do I look like a punter? Speaker A: I don't actually— I don't know the answer to that question. I mean, I think you're going to look like a punter no matter what, because you're— no matter how many cigarettes you smoke, you're still, you know, distinctly American, you know. Speaker B: But yeah, but I'm the good kind of American that they're interested in, bro.

Speaker A: Yeah, that's what you think. Speaker B: I'm still fascinating to them. Speaker A: I've— they're, they're fascinated with getting us out of there. That's what they're fascinated with. They're fascinated with getting your ass back to Charles de Gaulle and on a plane. Speaker B: I was really curious how I could get you to leave the area that you're in right now. Speaker A: So the meringue, it's not really for you. Okay. Just to be clear. No, I think that the— I was joking about how bad the coffee was in Italy and people got mad at me.

They're like, oh no, it's just bad in France. And I'm like, no, it's bad in both guys. Let's keep it 100. Let's not fight. The girls are fighting. Speaker A: So the meringue, it's not really for you. Okay. Just to be clear. No, I think that the— I was joking about how bad the coffee was in Italy and people got mad at me. They're like, oh no, it's just bad in France. And I'm like, no, it's bad in both guys. Let's keep it 100. Let's not fight. The girls are fighting.

Speaker B: Well, you can say the girls are fighting. You can say that it's not your favorite, but you can't say it's the best. It's all subjectif, Chris. Speaker A: Oh, well, sure, sure. I know it is, but that's not really how I talk. Speaker B: I mean, just like last night, I went to a place called Freddy's, just had a little glass of wine and some small nibbles. And I had the house cornichon, loudest cornichon I've ever had in my life. Take a bite out of that little thing. My eyes are, tears are welling up.

It was so loud. Speaker A: I didn't know those could get loud. I didn't know, is it like a fermentation process? Is it just, was there some sort of? Of additional toppings. Speaker B: I mean, maybe, yeah, maybe their fermentation got skunked a little bit. Who knows? It was turning into a little fucking cornichon kombucha. Speaker A: You don't think this is on purpose? Speaker B: No, it may, it may be on purpose. Just like, you know, some places you're like, you know, the spicy mustard, quote unquote, you know, there's a, it's a spectrum of heat levels depending on who you're talking to.

Speaker A: I've watched Hot Ones before. I've watched Hot Ones before. Speaker B: You know that. Yeah, yeah. You know the spectrum of all the Scoville scale. Speaker A: Of course. Speaker B: I don't need to bore you with those details. Of course. Speaker A: So you're saying it was, it was, it was cool. Speaker B: Like, you know, a thing where I'm like, oh, cornichon in France. Wow, we have pickles too. We have cornichon too. I've had it a thousand times, whatever. And you eat it and you're like, damn, bro, it really is just different.

Speaker A: I've watched Hot Ones before. I've watched Hot Ones before. Speaker B: You know that. Yeah, yeah. You know the spectrum of all the Scoville scale. Speaker A: Of course. Speaker B: I don't need to bore you with those details. Of course. Speaker A: So you're saying it was, it was, it was cool. Speaker B: Like, you know, a thing where I'm like, oh, cornichon in France. Wow, we have pickles too. We have cornichon too. I've had it a thousand times, whatever. And you eat it and you're like, damn, bro, it really is just different.

Speaker A: That is something I never ever want to eat ever in my life. Speaker B: Not a pickle hunter? Speaker A: No, pickles are gross. Those are gross. I know they're cuter, um, you know, in shape. But well, I'm glad— you know what, I like that you— I like that you go to France, you turn back into like a wine guy, you know, because that's sort of the, you know, obviously that's the the motherland. Speaker B: When in Rome. Speaker A: So you have no choice. Speaker B: Yeah, something about like, I feel like I don't want to drink martinis here.

When I'm here, I feel like I want to have wine. I have a glass of champagne, you know, at the beginning and then, you know, get the wine flowing. I don't know why. It's just like the suit feels better here when it's wine time. Speaker A: Well, yeah, I know, because it's not being explained to you by a guy in a cropped t-shirt with fucking big jeans on. Speaker B: Well, it's like we— because in America, like, we got the red, we got the white, we got the orange. Which one do you want, dumb shit?

And then it's a real gamble. But in France they say the same thing, but it's always all good. Like everything that they've chosen is good and correctly priced. Speaker A: You're telling me when you're sitting on a sidewalk in downtown LA that the guy in Doc Martens isn't serving you the best product you've ever had in your life? Is that what you're trying to say? Speaker B: Yeah. And it costs $20 less per glass, not per bottle, per glass. Speaker A: You're telling me when you're sitting on a sidewalk in downtown LA that the guy in Doc Martens isn't serving you the best product you've ever had in your life?

Is that what you're trying to say? Speaker B: Yeah. And it costs $20 less per glass, not per bottle, per glass. Speaker A: That's also interesting. Okay, so you're saying it's— Speaker B: It's $25 in LA and it's $5 here in Paris. Speaker A: Well, I'm finally finding an upside to Paris, but I can't necessarily participate. But I'm glad to know that. I'm glad to know that. Speaker B: But I know, but I think the consumption style is different here where like in LA, you know, have like 2 martinis for the night, you know, you're good.

Have a couple cigs, you're good, whatever. And you kind of pace it out because it's so strong. You kind of have to put it on a little IV drip or else you're going to get too faded. But in Paris, glass after glass, cigarette after cigarette, you're just, you're consuming the same amount of, whatever alcohol, but you're just doing it on a slow drip throughout the entire night. I don't know if they're just more anxious or whatever and they got to keep on smoking. Speaker A: No, they're alcoholics. They're— it's their— Speaker B: oh yeah, also that part.

Speaker A: Yes, their culture. Also, they're not driving home. I think that's a big— I think that's also— it really allows you to get twice as wasted. I mean, New York is the same thing. Like, you just— there's no— there's no chance you're ever driving home, so you're getting twisted. Speaker B: Yeah, you never have to do that mental math of like, all right, if I take Forest Lawn and I close one eye, I think I can get her home. Speaker A: My question to you is, Forest Lawn, why would— if I was a cop, why wouldn't I just sit there?

It's a, it's a great for speeding. It's great for speeding. The— and, and it's, it's, it's such a direct vein to, to connect parts of town. Speaker A: My question to you is, Forest Lawn, why would— if I was a cop, why wouldn't I just sit there? It's a, it's a great for speeding. It's great for speeding. The— and, and it's, it's, it's such a direct vein to, to connect parts of town. Speaker B: You know how many times I've thought this while driving drunk on that street? But yeah, I've, I've— if I'm not driving drunk on that street, I am going as fast as possible, 30 over the speed limit, as fast as possible.

Speaker A: It's so fun to go fast on that street. Speaker B: Nuremberg track. But not a single time have I seen a cop anywhere, hidden or just driving, using it. I think it's a common agreement with the residents of LA and the police department that it's like, if you know, you know, like real heads respect Forest Lawn. You gotta take the lawn, that's on you, that's your business, do what you gotta do over there. You know, I'm not gonna pop you for a DUI or a speeding, but you crash the fucking Panamera, You know, don't, don't go, don't call 911 either.

You got to call your cousin. Speaker A: You know, like if you crash the whip on Forest Lawn, you can't call for help, but you got to call your family. Speaker B: I mean, you can call somebody else, but you can't use like the municipal. Speaker A: Anything that taxpayers fund, you can't call. Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And I will extend it to you're, you're whipping that fucking whipping the Celica around the turn 4 and you pop a tire. We're not calling AAA. We're calling our Korean cousin to come over with the spare and you're going to do it yourself.

Get your hands dirty. And everybody I know would be okay with that deal. Speaker A: I think that is a fair deal. Speaker B: Of course, if you roll the fucking Land Cruiser, you know, we'll get a crane out. We're not going to make you, you know, gather up 12 of your hunkiest friends to flip it over. Speaker A: My Korean cousin doesn't have access to a crane, unfortunately. So got to kind of go above and beyond to get the crane. Speaker B: Well, it's funny because he probably does. Speaker A: You're like, you're not calling the right cousin, bro.

You have a lot of cousins. You have a lot of guys. Speaker B: My cousin owns the crane company and they're doing quite well. Speaker A: They're doing really well. They found a niche. I was— there's been a lot of Noah Kahan talk this week. I don't know if you're familiar with him. Speaker B: Yeah, this morning Carolyn said, who is Noah Kahan? And I said, he's kind of like Hoser. He's like our Hoser a little bit. Speaker A: He's like if Hoser was from Vermont. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: He's— but he's kind of funny on Twitter, which is a surprise.

Speaker B: I agree with that. I think he would do— like if he did How Long Gone, It would be great. I think he would do well, just like how Hoosier, like, you're like, oh, motherfucker can kind of talk. Speaker A: He's kind of nice with it. No, I know, but what's interesting is that he's sort of— this record is huge. It's like coming— it's like the numbers are crazy. It came in number 1 in the UK, and he got a, like, relatively positive Pitchfork review, which is very surprising, I think, for what this is.

Speaker B: I agree. But I can't be like Jason Mraz getting an 8.3. Speaker A: I can't really wrap my head around— I need to, like, really listen to it But I know he was on a Zach Bryan song a while ago and it was good, but he was just, you know, kind of singing whatever. He sang a verse in like harmonies. I don't really know what his music sounds like besides the stomp clap hit. This is all very like Lumineers-core. Mm-hmm. So that's why I'm a little surprised at the acceptance.

I'm always just surprised what gets accepted sometimes. Like, this does not feel like something that should be this big. He wears overalls and is like barefoot and has like hair down to his ass that he braids. You know what I mean? He wears pigtails. Speaker B: I agree. But I can't be like Jason Mraz getting an 8.3. Speaker A: I can't really wrap my head around— I need to, like, really listen to it But I know he was on a Zach Bryan song a while ago and it was good, but he was just, you know, kind of singing whatever.

He sang a verse in like harmonies. I don't really know what his music sounds like besides the stomp clap hit. This is all very like Lumineers-core. Mm-hmm. So that's why I'm a little surprised at the acceptance. I'm always just surprised what gets accepted sometimes. Like, this does not feel like something that should be this big. He wears overalls and is like barefoot and has like hair down to his ass that he braids. You know what I mean? He wears pigtails. Speaker B: But, but he's also good looking. No, enough. Speaker A: No, I mean, he's fine looking.

He— I wouldn't— I don't think anyone would call him good looking. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I really— not— not— I'm saying— and I'm saying that from someone that's coming from the same place. Is he— Speaker B: is he giving fuckable? Uh, in some photos, yes. In some photos, no. He does have a little Native American coworker energy to him. He's— Speaker A: he is— he's definitely— there are— there are definitely chicks that work in Maine for the summer that would love to have sex with this guy. You know what I mean?

But like overall, I don't think that's his appeal. Speaker B: Look, he's got his angles. I'm about to— like, I looked at a lot of photos where he, like, like you said, he's wearing overalls and his hair is in pig ties and he's like doing a song with Elmo. And then I just sent you this photo right now where he's fucking— Speaker A: Jason, that photo, that photo is 15 years old. That photo ain't current. Speaker B: But I'm saying that means if this man existed at one point looking like that, He has had things done to him and his body that will affect the confidence for the rest of his life.

Speaker A: Jason, that photo, that photo is 15 years old. That photo ain't current. Speaker B: But I'm saying that means if this man existed at one point looking like that, He has had things done to him and his body that will affect the confidence for the rest of his life. Speaker A: Let me tell you who— I mean, yeah, when the chick from your camp that didn't shave her underarms wants to give you top behind the kayaks. No, sure. I mean, yeah, no, bro, this guy— don't act like he's pulling like that.

Don't do that, bro. He ain't pulling like that. Speaker B: I'm just saying, if you play music, you have a voice that's got some honey in it, and you looked like that at one point, You're beating them off with a, with a truly sensual cat. Speaker A: You're beating them off. Speaker B: You don't, you just wake up and, you know, a Kim Cattrall type is servicing you. Speaker A: No, bro. You're absolutely wrong. This is some, this is some like, this is a chick that wears Naot sandals and fucking natural fabrics and like hasn't washed her.

Speaker B: What's a Naot? Speaker A: What's a? Some other Birkenstocks. Speaker B: Hasn't washed her what, Chris? Is, are you saying her pussy microbiome is not 99.9%? Speaker A: I'm not talking about the 0.1% of biome, bro. You know I'm not talking about that. I would never bring that up here. I'm just saying that I think he was beating them off with a patchouli stick, with a rain stick, but I don't think he was— Speaker B: Yeah, he was violently attacked by these women trying to engulf his penis with their mouth, but it sounded beautiful with the way that rain stick sang.

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I'm happy that any music that is made by a real person with a guitar is doing this well. That's all I care about. I don't care if it's for me or not. Every time I see this, I'm happy that it's not John Summit. Speaker B: Is he— is this man the, the John Summit of folk music? And I'm about to send you an image. Look at the, the headline of this editorial. It's gonna really be— Speaker A: well, that's the name of his album, is called Stickzies. That's the name of his album.

Yeah, that was the name of his album. Speaker B: That should be a fucking Drake record. Speaker A: But look at this. But look at this. I mean, yeah, look, he looks pretty good in these pictures, but it's him with two dogs in the woods and they're carrying sticks around and he's, it's just, it's crazy what this is. It's crazy what this promotes. Speaker B: Yeah. This is, this is man of the woods. And if a woman sees a guy with two dogs that respect him, his authority, and he can squat, core, core health is good.

Speaker B: That should be a fucking Drake record. Speaker A: But look at this. But look at this. I mean, yeah, look, he looks pretty good in these pictures, but it's him with two dogs in the woods and they're carrying sticks around and he's, it's just, it's crazy what this is. It's crazy what this promotes. Speaker B: Yeah. This is, this is man of the woods. And if a woman sees a guy with two dogs that respect him, his authority, and he can squat, core, core health is good. Speaker A: This sounds like, this sounds like you're talking about yourself, but your dogs are lost.

Smaller than these dogs. These dogs are— Speaker B: I mean, maybe in the subconscious it's very possible, but, uh, that's not what I was shooting for. Speaker A: Actually, this— honestly, Jason, that picture you sent me where he's got the long hair and the beard is not dissimilar from TJ at Cinespace. Maybe he's 15 pounds lighter, but I'm just saying, I'm just seeing something here. His, his— Speaker B: okay, I'm honing out. Speaker A: His stick is a Martin, your stick is a CD Logic case full of French remixes. It's something.

Yeah, I've seen The similarities between Noah Khan and them jeans are something I never thought I would see. But you've made them very apparent. You've done this to yourself. Speaker B: Damn. Speaker A: Damn. Speaker B: Damn. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: Like, if him and I fucked, it would be an Ibanez acoustic guitar. Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly. Speaker B: For the true heads. That one is true. Speaker A: It's a purple headstock. It's limited, but it's— Speaker B: That one's for Morby. Speaker A: Yeah, that's for Morby. Morby's listening.

This is— I would love to talk to Morby about Noah Khan. I just don't— Yeah, I'm surprised at the popularity of this, but I am— I, again, I'm happy overall. But I'm just wondering what the, what the endgame is for this guy. Speaker A: It's a purple headstock. It's limited, but it's— Speaker B: That one's for Morby. Speaker A: Yeah, that's for Morby. Morby's listening. This is— I would love to talk to Morby about Noah Khan. I just don't— Yeah, I'm surprised at the popularity of this, but I am— I, again, I'm happy overall.

But I'm just wondering what the, what the endgame is for this guy. Speaker B: It sounds like, um, a lot of money, success, and fame. I'm, I'm, yeah, there's a Vulture article. Yeah, Noah Cajon on Olivia Rodrigo's connection to Stick Season. So this guy's like, all right, Olivia Rodrigo, huge star, I'm just gonna like write an album, you know, as if I was the guy that she was singing about, and then boom, profit, right? Speaker A: Profit. Olivia had Wise Blood singing backups last night. Speaker B: Yeah. And she had Hillary Clinton on rhythm guitar.

Speaker A: Hillary Clinton hates her husband so much she'll play rhythm guitar for Olivia Rodrigo when she's never picked up a guitar in her life. Speaker B: Oh, the chords are easy. I could do 2 or 5. Speaker A: Super easy. Speaker B: It's funny. We were watching it this morning. That's a good bill. We were watching it this morning. And I was like, damn, guitar player on the left kind of looks like Hillary Clinton. And Carolyn had a little laugh, you know, on— and then song 2 comes around and she's like, wait a minute, she does look a lot like Hillary Clinton.

Like, uh, you know, let me tell you something. Speaker A: If you're trying to get an all-female band right now, one of them is going to look like Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are if that's what you're trying to do. Speaker B: Oh, you want— oh, and you want keys too? Yeah, you're gonna get a Hillary. Speaker A: If you're trying to get an all-female band right now, one of them is going to look like Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are if that's what you're trying to do.

Speaker B: Oh, you want— oh, and you want keys too? Yeah, you're gonna get a Hillary. Speaker A: I'm sorry, because I think her band was all— I think she had— yeah, I think full band, all women, which I, I respect the move, but you're going to get a Hillary in there. Speaker B: I want to know, how come not all women in her age range? You know, like when you see the Popstar live band performance, you see a lot of, you know, guitar players that are also in their, you know, early 20s maybe.

How come? Speaker A: Yeah, I wonder. Speaker B: For some older studio heads, she's an old soul, isn't she? Speaker A: I mean, I'm sure she would say that. I wonder actually, because I think it does, it does, it does feel like there's a limited pool of absolute killers, and it's not like you need to be a killer to play a Olivia Rodrigo song, but should— I feel like I would be going on looks first and skill second, only because it's, again, it's not— this is not extremely complicated music. Speaker B: Yeah, because also, you know, it's, it's— we can just play the backing track and, you know, we don't really need to know that you aren't playing those synth lines.

Uh, you know, we can't see your fingers on the Nord. Speaker A: I bet Olivia— I bet Olivia makes them play the real shit. I bet she makes them. I bet there's— Speaker B: oh, absolutely. Speaker A: I bet she wants it to feel real. Speaker B: You know, look, if I'm gonna get a bunch of 41-year-old heifers out here, you're gonna have to— there's gonna be no mistakes. Speaker A: No, we can't make a mistake. Not on live TV. Not on live TV. The city's getting ready for the Met Gala, Jason.

People are just— people are so mad at Jeff Bezos. It's just— it's, it's, it's honestly the level of hatred for Jeff Bezos is really, is really, um, hitting— can you explain why in Manhattan? Speaker A: No, we can't make a mistake. Not on live TV. Not on live TV. The city's getting ready for the Met Gala, Jason. People are just— people are so mad at Jeff Bezos. It's just— it's, it's, it's honestly the level of hatred for Jeff Bezos is really, is really, um, hitting— can you explain why in Manhattan?

Speaker B: He— did he become— he became a donor and now people are worried His stink is on the gala? Speaker A: Yeah, because he's the first bad guy who's given money to go to sit at a table at the Met Gala. I mean, yeah, he's the first one. Speaker B: I wonder, that's kind of interesting that right after Jeff Bezos makes a sizable donation to the costume board or whatever, 2 months later you got the article, hey, we actually have enough money to go independent now. All of a sudden we've been saving up all the money for the last 10 years.

Last year we got a nice little bump. Speaker A: I think, I think, I think Bezos— look, if your chick wants to go to shit like this and you're Bezos, like, happy wife, happy life. I'm gonna break off— I'm gonna— let me give you 10. Let me let you hold 10. It's, it's, it's Costume Institute Gala, hold 10. Speaker B: It ain't tricking if you got it. If you're like, damn, imagine buying Condé Nast just for some pussy, and Jeff's like, bet, I'll do it. You want ATM? Speaker A: No problem.

Speaker B: Apple Car? What do you want? Speaker A: It's actually cheaper than my yacht, so this is working out for me. I don't I just don't— I mean, people are so mad about it. And like, he had a party last night or she had a party last night and it was like, you know, I think people are— it feels like some people are like crossing the picket line to go to like a Bezos-hosted event. Speaker B: It's like all y'all who went to the Noma pop-up in Silver Lake, you know, we see you.

Speaker A: I just don't think that— I just don't know what people like. Obviously, this is not important to any regular person because it's a complete, you know, it's like celebrities getting dressed up. It doesn't feel like real life to most people, but they love to consume the content, obviously. But yeah, I just don't know where this, this kind of money can only come from a few places, you know what I mean? And it's like, right, you got the Sacklers, you got Bezos, and you got Middle East. So what do we like?

What, what's— pick your poison. Pick your poison. It's all, it's all going to be bad. So I don't know what, I don't know what your plan is, but it's all going to be bad. Speaker B: Yeah, it's very like, we, we, we, we've been talking a lot about, um, balls and ballrooms and them being, you know, Trump-coded, Republican-coded. Is it, you know, the left has the gala and the right has the ball? Because the left has the shame, they can't just have a ball. It has to be, you know, for something, you know, a charity or something.

Speaker A: I would say balls are often for charity too. Maybe not. Speaker B: I don't know. I think a gala, it really has the stink of, you know, donation and, you know, fundraising. And a ball seems like more of a, you know, unabashed celebration. Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't get me started on Baby2Baby, LA's fakest gala. One of my— one of my— Speaker B: I don't— what's that? Speaker A: That's Baby2— I think it's called Baby2Baby. That's the one all the influence— that's the one all the influencers go to.

It's like— Speaker B: it's, it's, uh, sounds like a brand of something where I have to buy my niece-in-law, you know, like a new fucking like headband for when you're eating Cheerios so they don't spill in the car. It's Baby2Baby. Neoprene is washable. Speaker B: I don't— what's that? Speaker A: That's Baby2— I think it's called Baby2Baby. That's the one all the influence— that's the one all the influencers go to. It's like— Speaker B: it's, it's, uh, sounds like a brand of something where I have to buy my niece-in-law, you know, like a new fucking like headband for when you're eating Cheerios so they don't spill in the car.

It's Baby2Baby. Neoprene is washable. Speaker A: American 501 nonprofit organization that provides diapers, formula, clothing, other basic necessities for children in poverty. And then you look at that, the diapers are made by babies. Speaker B: Unfortunately, it is a baby to baby. Speaker A: But it's like Dear Media buys a table, you know what I mean? It's like, it's, it's, it's that vibe. Okay, it's— I, I can't even begin to describe. It's like a funny, like you see all the info, like Chrissy Teigen gets an award at this shit, you know what I mean?

It's like that kind of— Speaker B: it's like for her work in the baby space. Speaker A: All women listening will know about the Baby to Baby Gala. Okay, okay, all women will know. Speaker B: Ladies, is it hot that I don't know about it? Speaker A: I mean It's— yeah, kind of. Speaker B: Can I be a fucking straggot and not know about Baby 2 Baby? Something to think about. Speaker A: I'm embarrassed to know about it, but here we are. You know, it wouldn't be the first time I'm embarrassed to know something.

Speaker B: I wanted to ask you, you're an international traveler. When we were checking into our hotel and got the little room tour, you know, lay of the land, clicker here, whatever. Speaker A: I don't let them do that. But yeah, go ahead. Speaker B: Really? Do you just say, I'm straight? Speaker A: No, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, I know how to use a hotel room. Speaker B: But some hotel rooms have like a little thing like, oh, just to let you know, You know, like for, for example, you know, the little card on the back of the door with like the fire emergency info and like call 911.

Don't you, you know, that, that thing that's like plastic on the back of the door. That's where the Wi-Fi password was printed. Not anywhere on the card or the key card. Speaker B: But some hotel rooms have like a little thing like, oh, just to let you know, You know, like for, for example, you know, the little card on the back of the door with like the fire emergency info and like call 911. Don't you, you know, that, that thing that's like plastic on the back of the door. That's where the Wi-Fi password was printed.

Not anywhere on the card or the key card. Speaker A: Only, only that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Speaker B: And I'm, I'm, so that's an example where they're like, hey, just let you know that in the Wi-Fi password is on the back of this. Speaker A: What I'm saying to you is you can tell me that at the front desk before when you give me the key, you don't need to come into my room and be like, here's how the the remote control works. The real crime that's going on, Jason, is the room service menu being on the TV now at every hotel.

That shit is so fucking stupid. And I don't know, because Europe loves a— Italy especially loves a QR code still. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: And it feels— having a print— printing a room service menu, the amount of money that is spent on that is so— I just don't understand what we're— what corner we're cutting. Yeah, I don't want you in my room. I want you explaining anything. I can handle my own luggage. I don't want any help. Once I have the key and you have my credit card, don't talk to me again.

Okay. Until I need something, of course, until I call down. Speaker B: Yes, of course, Mr. Black, we understand. Yeah, okay, well, we were getting the tour and we were in the bathroom and he goes, this is an Italian-style bathroom. Have you ever heard that? And do you know what he means by that? There's one unique signifier that the hotel bathroom has. Speaker A: What was the bath mat? Fake Off-White? What makes it Italian? Is there a fucking— is there an ashtray next to the toilet? Like, what makes it Italian?

Speaker A: What was the bath mat? Fake Off-White? What makes it Italian? Is there a fucking— is there an ashtray next to the toilet? Like, what makes it Italian? Speaker B: Yeah, it was, uh, it was an off-white flag. Speaker A: Yeah, like, what, literally, what is it? Just hella marble? Speaker B: So, okay, the one thing, the one thing that it had that other hotel bathrooms don't have typically— I've maybe seen it once or twice in my entire life, which it would be funny if it was an Italian-style bathroom— it had a scale.

Speaker A: That's— I don't think Italians weigh themselves. I don't think Italians know how to I think they know how to count. Speaker B: They have scales that say the number for you so you don't have to read it. Speaker A: Good point. Speaker B: But I'd like to think that Italian people are more conscious of their weight and their body than, you know, many other countries. Maybe not France, but— Speaker A: I would disagree. I would disagree completely. The way that I think the thing about Italian people stay snatchy.

Yeah, but that's not because they're weighing themselves. It's because they, they like their lifestyle is because they have cigarette for dinner. Yeah, like I think it's a lifestyle difference. I think it's— I'm not gonna buy into the fucking, you know, Maha influencer, I eat pasta for a week in Italy and I'm skinnier than when I eat Erewhon in LA shit. But there's some truth to that if you, if you grew up there and lived there. Speaker B: Yeah, does it just mean like the bathroom is sexy and has dark wood or something like that?

Speaker A: You can see through? Speaker B: No. Speaker A: So you're saying to me they said Italian-style bathroom and the only thing that you're noticing that's different is there's a scale? Yes. There's no other— Speaker B: no. Got a sink, got a toilet, got a shower. Speaker B: Yeah, does it just mean like the bathroom is sexy and has dark wood or something like that? Speaker A: You can see through? Speaker B: No. Speaker A: So you're saying to me they said Italian-style bathroom and the only thing that you're noticing that's different is there's a scale?

Yes. There's no other— Speaker B: no. Got a sink, got a toilet, got a shower. Speaker A: I was hoping maybe they had the La Marcazzo in the bathroom. You know what I mean? So you could kind of have the espresso going while the shower's heating up or something. Speaker B: There was an Emporio Armani ashtray. No. Okay. I just Googled it. AI says an Italian-style bathroom is defined by luxurious, high-quality materials used with minimalist aesthetics. Speaker A: Okay. That's fake. Speaker B: That's completely fake. The focus on creating a spa-like, sophisticated, durable space.

Okay, so it's saying like the shit is baller there. It is like a very nice like burgundy colored marble his and hers sink. Like it looks nice. So it's saying it's like baller ingredients, but it's not like this crazy like grand, you know, Trump ballroom style bathroom where you feel a little— Speaker A: being in a hotel room in Paris has two sinks is a victory in itself because those things are so fucking small. Speaker B: Now see, so the room is not huge, but it's like, I mean, it's perfectly sized.

Speaker A: It's some, it's some touch both walls if I stretch my arms out. Speaker B: If my wife My wife wasn't here, it'd be— it'd be parfait. Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. That's how it always is. I gotta upgrade because this bitch got a carry— it got a check bag. Speaker B: She loves it. I mean, the no, no full-length mirror is the only problem, but I don't know if that— that's cool. You gay if you worry about that. Speaker A: I like that Italian-style bathroom just means nice. I, I think you could just say nice, especially if you're not in—

Speaker B: She loves it. I mean, the no, no full-length mirror is the only problem, but I don't know if that— that's cool. You gay if you worry about that. Speaker A: I like that Italian-style bathroom just means nice. I, I think you could just say nice, especially if you're not in— Speaker B: it means quiet luxury. Speaker A: I mean, sure, whatever. I, I just— everybody's a liar. What, like, what have we even talking about? Like, what the fuck are you even talking about? Speaker B: Okay, so you were talking about the, why is the Noah Khan so big?

And it was having me, it was reminding me of the Geese bots, you know, fabricated following where it's, you know, like, this is, why is everyone talking about this? Why are people who are normally not talking about this kind of thing talking about this? And it makes you suspicious of it. The Young Lean video. Directed by EmRatahsMan, kind of seems like it's getting the Geese bot treatment. Have you noticed this? Speaker A: I haven't watched it. I've avoided it completely. Okay, I don't— I mean, I'm sure it's cool, but the way people— Speaker B: that— Speaker A: but you're right.

I mean, the Noah Khan thing, the difference is there's numbers to back it up. Like, the fucking— this guy's coming in number one everywhere, selling like 400,000 hard copy. Like, that's serious. Um, I think that the— that video— is the song good? I've heard the song isn't good. Speaker B: Uh, it's not for me. Shout out to Cirkut, who produced it, another French homie. But yeah, it's not my fave. Speaker A: People have only talked about the video is what I'm trying to say. I haven't heard nothing about this. Speaker B: And everyone's saying like, how, how have I, why have I seen like 400 tweets from like Silicon Valley Twitter bots talking about how like the movement coach and the choreo work is like groundbreaking.

Speaker A: People have only talked about the video is what I'm trying to say. I haven't heard nothing about this. Speaker B: And everyone's saying like, how, how have I, why have I seen like 400 tweets from like Silicon Valley Twitter bots talking about how like the movement coach and the choreo work is like groundbreaking. Speaker A: I mean, but it is good, right? Speaker B: It is. Yeah, it's cool looking and it is good. This is my— Speaker A: this is my— but this is my problem now, is that every time something is good and people are talking about it, it's going to be questioned as like, who paid, right?

Who paid the, the agency to do juice this? Where it's like, well, maybe it's just good. But I mean, I don't know, it's very similar to the nepo baby argument. Yeah, yeah. Speaker B: You're like, oh, like, well, you know, I do, I do my marketing DIY style, like organic style, like I do it— Speaker A: but don't people— Speaker B: but like, I did it natty. It's like, oh, you're doing performance-enhancing marketing or you're not. Speaker A: But I also think that people are— from what I understand, as someone who's not— I was never like a young lean head.

He's a— he's very, very popular. That whole thing is very much more popular than I even realized. Yeah, especially online. Speaker B: He has a rabid following. Speaker A: Yeah, especially online. Speaker B: So it's all over the world. Speaker A: As far as people that would— this would happen to, he feels pretty likely. Even if they do juice it a little bit, this is more like— this is more like a— the geese thing is less likely than this. You know what I mean? If you, if you really want to, you know, break it down.

Speaker B: Yeah. And I guess, you know, the director having the, the Emrata connection and him. Speaker A: No, dude, he's a legend. His dad's a legend. No, it's like a, it's, he's, I mean, it's sick. Like, it's cool that they did it. And I'm sure the video's great and I'll, now I'll watch it. But I sort of like, this is one of those things that I avoided because I was like, I don't, I don't care about this. I've seen too much stuff about it. Speaker B: Yeah. And I guess, you know, the director having the, the Emrata connection and him.

Speaker A: No, dude, he's a legend. His dad's a legend. No, it's like a, it's, he's, I mean, it's sick. Like, it's cool that they did it. And I'm sure the video's great and I'll, now I'll watch it. But I sort of like, this is one of those things that I avoided because I was like, I don't, I don't care about this. I've seen too much stuff about it. Speaker B: Mm-hmm. Speaker A: You know what, what even now I, it's not like I don't have 3 minutes. I'll tell you that.

You know, I could have, I could have, I could have made it work. Speaker B: Um, let's talk about Spirit Airlines. Speaker A: Yeah, RIP. It's really crazy that that happened so fast. It's like basically like you have a flight tomorrow and you can't take it type shit. Speaker B: Yesterday, or I guess 2 days ago, Friday, we pulled up to the airport, you know, like whatever, 2 PM, 3 PM. And I looked on my phone and I was like, oh shit, Spirit Airlines is going to close soon. And then I walked in, we were checking our bags and I was like, are you guys going to throw Spirit Airlines a going away party?

And then everyone started laughing and I was like, And obviously it spread very fast in the airport. But I think everyone experienced every emotion about it and every thought about it. They felt all the Spirit feelings in a period of like 12 hours where it normally takes like a week to sort of build out all the jokes and angles and takes around it. Speaker A: I don't think it's a surprise, but I wonder if that opens up the market. Like, I wonder if this, if somebody's gonna introduce or really push a new low-cost carrier to fill that void.

Speaker B: Who's going to jump in the ring for the diffusion line airline that's going to keep everything in check? Speaker B: Who's going to jump in the ring for the diffusion line airline that's going to keep everything in check? Speaker A: Yeah, like Delta, United, American could do a diffusion line. I'm sure there's like whatever, you know, one of these like budget European airlines could come to America. I just wonder, or maybe, maybe there isn't. Maybe the reason Spirit's going out of business is that the gap is smaller than we think.

Speaker B: Yeah, people are, you know, people are saying that like the reason You know, everyone's complaining about airline prices. As soon as Spirit goes away, like the one thing that sort of like affects the, the spectrum of pricing, when that goes away, you're going to really see what fucking United and Delta can do with the fucking— with the price tag, you know what I mean? Speaker A: I mean, I'm sure it's going to affect the entire industry negatively in some way, you know, besides— I mean, not the comedic industry because Spirit people really be getting their jokes off about Spirit.

Speaker B: But yeah, do you think that Frontier is like like, damn, I've been waiting for this moment my whole fucking life. Speaker A: Somebody's got it. Somebody has to capitalize on it. It feels like a pretty obvious thing to do, but maybe the data isn't there. Speaker B: And also, why can't you do— like, I made a Diffusion Line joke, but why can't there be Marc Jacobs but Delta? Like, why can't Delta just do the little, you know, the lower level shit too? Speaker A: Because I think that— I, I know, I, I agree.

I think it's— Speaker B: that's— I mean, they're already giving us paper plates in the lounge, so what's next, y'all? Speaker A: Once they do main Maine Basic. Why don't you just go Maine Spirit, you know what I mean? Make it even cheaper. You gotta board, you gotta board while the plane's taking off. It's kind of a— it's got— Speaker B: I saw Maine Spirit open for Turning Point Brooklyn '89. Speaker A: It's gotta be— you gotta like— it should be, it should be the cheapest ticket. You gotta— it's a race to board last, you know what I mean?

It's 10 people, they're sprinting. Whoever doesn't make it doesn't make it. Speaker A: Once they do main Maine Basic. Why don't you just go Maine Spirit, you know what I mean? Make it even cheaper. You gotta board, you gotta board while the plane's taking off. It's kind of a— it's got— Speaker B: I saw Maine Spirit open for Turning Point Brooklyn '89. Speaker A: It's gotta be— you gotta like— it should be, it should be the cheapest ticket. You gotta— it's a race to board last, you know what I mean?

It's 10 people, they're sprinting. Whoever doesn't make it doesn't make it. Speaker B: But buying a ticket doesn't guarantee a seat. Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Speaker B: Like, so you mean like a seat number and you're like, no, no, you have to race for it. Speaker A: What's the movie where they went to the island and hunt— they, they realized they were getting hunted, you know what I'm saying? You're like, the people were hunting you with Ice-T. That, that's what this could be. It could be that kind of vibe where it's like you are, you were, you were gathered.

Speaker B: You're talking about The Hunger Games? Speaker A: It's not The Hunger Games. No, it was a movie. It was like a '90s movie where they went to an island and then half the people realized they were being hunted and the other half were doing the hunting. Speaker B: Right, right, right. That was, um, Fuck it. Speaker A: I came up this most dangerous game. The Most Dangerous Game. Yeah, one of Katie's— we had one of Katie's texts brought it up this week and I was like, oh yeah, I actually— a movie I've seen.

Speaker B: Um, one of the rare— one of the— one of the 11 flicks I've actually caught. Most Dangerous Game. Speaker A: Do you think there's any man out there that's not going to be forced to see The Devil Wears Prada 2? Do you think— is there any man that can avoid it? Speaker B: I was thinking about this because, um, when we were on the plane, Carolyn texted me like, damn, they got Withering Heights on here. And I was reminded of when that came out and she mentioned, you know, wanting to see it.

And I was like, that is— that's all you and your girls. Like, yeah, I am not going to be in the theater with you guys fucking gooning out for an hour and a half. I'm straight. But then Devil Wears Prada comes around and that seems a little more— I'm able to include my bisexual partner in this matter. Speaker B: I was thinking about this because, um, when we were on the plane, Carolyn texted me like, damn, they got Withering Heights on here. And I was reminded of when that came out and she mentioned, you know, wanting to see it.

And I was like, that is— that's all you and your girls. Like, yeah, I am not going to be in the theater with you guys fucking gooning out for an hour and a half. I'm straight. But then Devil Wears Prada comes around and that seems a little more— I'm able to include my bisexual partner in this matter. Speaker A: Yeah, no, I think so too. Speaker B: Like, if I was like a Jason Kelce type, then nah, leave me at home. But since like like, I'm kind of tea, it's gonna be fine.

Speaker A: If I was Jason Kelce type— I mean, I don't care about seeing it at all, but I feel like— Speaker B: come on— Speaker A: I don't remember the first one. I don't remember anything about it. Like, I'm sure I've seen it. Speaker B: Doesn't matter if you don't remember the first one. Speaker A: But people are trying to say it's like, oh, it's actually a real cutting look at the dying media industry. I'm like, is it though? Like, I'll— we'll see about that. I mean, I think you guys want to make it.

I think people want it to be good so bad that it's going to be good. Like, the performance, you know what I mean? Speaker B: No one, no one thinks it's going to be fucking Chinatown or whatever. Like, it's— Speaker A: you're, you're— Speaker B: the base level for it is like sloppy. No, but I think people want a dumb thing. Speaker A: No, I think people think it's going to be like, actually— or, or it's— I've heard some chatter like, actually, it's very cutting, an intelligent take on the downfall of media, you know, which is— okay, I, I'm sure if they can sneak that in, it's like putting fucking spinach in dessert You know, if they can, if they can fit it in because this shit is not—

Speaker A: No, I think people think it's going to be like, actually— or, or it's— I've heard some chatter like, actually, it's very cutting, an intelligent take on the downfall of media, you know, which is— okay, I, I'm sure if they can sneak that in, it's like putting fucking spinach in dessert You know, if they can, if they can fit it in because this shit is not— Speaker B: Yeah, if you— that's for people who like watching takes more than watching films. Speaker A: Well, that's everybody. So I don't know what I am, right?

I don't know what they're going to do about all that now. Speaker B: Fellow lovers of cinema, they get it. Okay. I mean, check me out on Letterboxd. Speaker A: They're going to do some— that's going to do fucking numbers, that's for sure. Speaker B: Yeah. I mainly want to see it to see like how much of a fag scent BJ Novak does. Speaker A: I saw him. Speaker B: Or if he keeps it straight. Speaker A: I saw him the other night. I was like, how much are you in this movie?

And he was like, more than you would think. Speaker B: Yeah, I think he's getting it more than we would think. Speaker A: Like, well, he's like a Bezos. He's like a— he's like an evil billionaire is his character, which is pretty fun to do. I feel like that's a great— Speaker B: BJ needs to play only villains for the rest of his career. Speaker A: I know, right? Kid, write children's books and be a villain is a nice dichotomy of a career. That's like a really cool— Speaker B: a girl who can do both.

Speaker A: That's a real cool one-two punch. But yeah, I'll— I'm sure I'll see it eventually. I just feel it feels like something to go to the theater to see that and get your fake Birkin popcorn bag and the whole, you know, it's, it's a little, it's just a lot. It's just a lot. But I saw the Marty Supremes on the plane too now already, which seems, seems fast. Speaker B: It's, but it does seem fast. Speaker A: But Wuthering Heights is much more recent, but it's a different, I mean, it's a different kind of movie, I guess.

Speaker B: It's, but it does seem fast. Speaker A: But Wuthering Heights is much more recent, but it's a different, I mean, it's a different kind of movie, I guess. Speaker B: It's just interesting because like, uh, it, it went from being sex sells to having, uh, a, a take and an opinion and thoughts on this thing. Sells better, you know, like before it'd be like, hey, we got two really hot people, Margot Robbie and fucking this Australian fucking hunk, and they're just going to like kind of finger each other for 2 hours.

That would be lines around the corner in the '80s and '90s. You know, that's Star Wars shit. Yeah, but now it's like— but the fact that nobody needed to have a take about it because nothing, you know, nothing happens. Hot people are hot. But when it's like, I need to know what the take is on on, you know, the Taylor Swift documentary or The Devil Wears Prada. Like, once it gets into that thing where it's like you feel left out and you're not a part of the zeitgeist if you don't have a take on it.

Speaker A: No, it's true. You gotta, you gotta participate. And even if you— I mean, you could just go on Letterboxd and kind of compile a take, you know what I'm saying, if you, if you're a gold member. And just take a little from column A, a little from column B, and there you go. You got it. Speaker B: Repackaging a little more, but it's worth it for me. Speaker A: Yeah, it's, yeah, it's super worth it. Uh, all right, well, look, how long gone? Jason, I know you're wearing your Gap Victoria Beckham hoodie right now over there, and I hope you're getting a lot of compliments on it.

Speaker B: I saw a couple. Oh my God, I forgot. We were taking our Sunday morning stroll literally through the garden, and I see this guy. He's in a tour group, you know, with like the person with holding a little flag and everyone has a little headset. Speaker B: I saw a couple. Oh my God, I forgot. We were taking our Sunday morning stroll literally through the garden, and I see this guy. He's in a tour group, you know, with like the person with holding a little flag and everyone has a little headset.

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: This guy is, he looks like he's from London, British looking guy, full head and face tats. You know, when people have the like gargoyle horns on top of the head, you know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look like a mean guy, menacing character, but he had like the skinny kind of like, you know, jeans with the holes in them, like, like fake Amiri's kind of jeans. And then, you know, like the, the Louboutin white sneakers. And then on top, Stranger Things flannel. Like my man has killed people.

Stranger Things flannel? My man has instructed his dog to kill a person. He's got the Stranger Things flannel and it was crispy. Speaker A: Oh, he had the crisp— he got like— Speaker B: he like— it was like he got it pressed with his Ben Davis. That's frisbee. Speaker A: That's fly, bro. I kind of— I kind of think he got fly. I mean, I think that if you look like that and you scare people, you know that maybe you gotta tone it down a notch. You know, you can't wear your— you can't— yeah, you can't wear your— your Creepers and your Doc Martens with white laces and your fucking Fred Perry.

Speaker B: Don't— don't wear the, uh, the jiu-jitsu studio merch. Don't draw any more attention to the cauliflower ear. Speaker A: Yeah, you're not able to wear your Smith Wesson vintage tee, you know, to the garden. Speaker B: Don't— don't wear the, uh, the jiu-jitsu studio merch. Don't draw any more attention to the cauliflower ear. Speaker A: Yeah, you're not able to wear your Smith Wesson vintage tee, you know, to the garden. Speaker B: Yeah, you're whites-only boxing gym. Speaker A: Does that go a little more palatable? Speaker B: No, no, we're full, we're full.

Speaker A: No, the Stranger Things flannel is a little more palatable for the audience in the garden. Speaker B: I don't know, my kid got me into it. He would send me tapes in jail and I just, I don't know, I got hooked on it. That's one of those shows where if you're in jail, it's so good, it hits harder. Speaker A: It feels like a good— the only way I would watch Stranger Things if I was in jail. That's it. That's it. Speaker B: It's like watching Hamlet on a plane.

Speaker A: The only way, right? Speaker B: The only way that fucking thing goes down, brother. Speaker A: Only way. All right, how long gone? Thank you for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday, uh, or whatever, Wednesday, I guess. Speaker B: Oh yeah, this is for the— our, our, uh, download of the Met Gala. Speaker A: Yeah, with Lynette, who's joining us again, year 2. Speaker B: And we're taking it back for the, for the fellas I'm going to call it the Met Ball. Speaker A: There you go. Thank you.

Thank you. Put some fucking nuts on this thing for once. You know what I mean? Speaker B: Elegant ball for elegant people only. Speaker A: If I got to look at— if I got to look at those fucking heated rivalry guys in their Dolce Gabbana gowns, we need to put some nuts on this thing. Let's call it the ball. Speaker B: I want to crop his crop top out of my frame. I want to crop Corey Story. Corey Story? Speaker A: Connor Story. If I've just seen— That's his evil game name.

I can't see these guys again, bro. It's— because I forgot about them. And then Connor Story last night was in the— he was literally wearing a crop cropped denim. He was paid by The Gap to wear this fit on TV. But I was like, I forgot about him. Speaker A: Connor Story. If I've just seen— That's his evil game name. I can't see these guys again, bro. It's— because I forgot about them. And then Connor Story last night was in the— he was literally wearing a crop cropped denim. He was paid by The Gap to wear this fit on TV.

But I was like, I forgot about him. Speaker B: I really had forgotten the bag, honey. Speaker A: I'd forgotten about him. And then he's back. Speaker B: It'd be so cool to be like, hey, I'm gonna announce the band on SNL, isn't that so fun? And then your manager's like, I think I can get you $300,000 for this as well. Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, imagine being like, how do you feel about crop tops? Speaker B: And they both laugh. Speaker A: Do you think he— do you think he know— because Debbie Harry, do you think he knew who— do you think he knows who Debbie Harry is?

Real talk, I don't know. Speaker B: I don't know. He knows that she's mother, but he has no idea what she It's so cool. Speaker A: It's really cool that he's wearing a Gap Victoria Beckham sweatshirt and a cropped denim jacket and doesn't know who Debbie Harry is. That's really cool. Speaker B: He thinks it's called— he thinks it's pronounced blonde and not blondie. He's like, he gets, he gets a little like confused with the IE at the end. Wait, what? What, like French? It's like du blond? Speaker A: I don't know.

I just won't say it. I'll just call her Debbie. Speaker B: I just want you guys— I love old like music, like vintage stuff, like blonde. It's like so good. Speaker A: Vintage stuff. I just like love old music. Like, I think it's really cool. Like, I really like R&B stuff too. Speaker B: My nana used to listen to them, I think. Speaker A: Old music. All right, thank you for listening. com is a website. We will talk to you guys later. Speaker B: Bisous. Speaker B: Bisous. Speaker A: ¡Muchas gracias!

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