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One-on-one pod today: Chris is in St. Moritz, Switzerland, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Chris’s alpine adventures, karaoke concepts, a hand soap that smells like a certain someone, Jack Harlow’s “Monica,” Harry’s world music anthems, the Louis Theroux manosphere doc, the Weinstein-esque Timmy smear campaign paying off, From Dusk Till Dawn (1996), Bow Wow’s youthful glow, Hudson Williams being flanked by two ladies while dressed like Kamala, and Doechii autographs. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. How Long Gone coming at you loud and clear. It is Chris Black. I'm staring at the beautiful mountains in St. Moritz. The snow really dumped last night, Jason, so there's some fresh powder for those who participated on the mountain this morning. Wait, where the hell are you? St. Moritz. Speaker B: I never heard of that. What is that? Speaker A: It's Switzerland. Speaker B: You're in Switzerland right now? I had no idea.

What are you doing in Switzerland? Speaker A: We talked about this. Yeah, it's, it's a, it's like a, it's a very old school, very nice, like alpine resort town. It's pretty amazing actually. Cleanest air I've ever experienced. Uh, it's a trip, it's a High Snobity trip, um, with, uh, a few, you know, Maseratis involved. I don't know who else, there's a bunch of people involved, but it's It's one of the— it's at the Kulm Hotel, which is like this very old hotel here that's, um, pretty unbelievable actually. I didn't— I knew it was nice, but I didn't really think about it.

And then I got here and I was like, oh, this is, this is pretty special. So, but I'm looking at this mountain that's kind of unbelievable, but I of course didn't risk my ACL or MCL at this big age, um, out on the, out on the mountain. Speaker B: Okay. So you said the, the slopes looking a little too high, looking a little too sneet— steep? Speaker A: Too high. Too high. I can't— yeah, they definitely look too high. Speaker B: The snobidey and the And the Alpine peaks are too high for you.

Speaker A: Both high. Both high. Speaker B: She's not. Okay. So you went out there because it's a trip. It's been— I mean, it's been a trip. I mean, you love trips. And you said Maserati, you get to drive a Maserati or you just get to look at them. Speaker A: I got driven in a Maserati because the thing about St. Moritz that's interesting is that it's, it's very hard to get to. It's like you have to fly to Zurich or you have to fly to Milan and it's basically 3 hours from either one.

So there's not really much. I think most people that— not most, but I would say the people that come here repeatedly are taking a private plane. Um, is, is the only way to get here, uh, in a, in a timely fashion. Speaker B: But you did not take a, a private plane? Speaker A: No, I did not. No, I rode in the back of the car and, and sort of fell in and out of sleep while, um, watching Netflix on my phone. Speaker B: Was it— was this a Maserati SUV or a little sedan?

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was the one. I think I'd bought— I think I'm almost positive I've borrowed it a couple times. It's, it's not like crazy, it's kind of like the I like it. It's nice, but it's not huge. It's not some like giant monstrosity, you know. Um, okay. But the roads are curvy enough to like sort of make you— you have to put down your phone. Let's just say that. It's a little— it's, it's like you, you kind of— you could get sick pretty easily if you don't, if you don't like concentrate on not getting sick.

Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So you were not unable to, to read this, the newest edition of the Paris Review, otherwise you would have needed a little Maserati barf bag. Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So you were not unable to, to read this, the newest edition of the Paris Review, otherwise you would have needed a little Maserati barf bag. Speaker A: I'm not— yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how to say blow chunks. In any of the local languages. But yes, it could have, it could have happened. Speaker B: Okay, do you, do you have, um, an influencer itinerary that you— that are things that are mandated and things that are optional?

Uh, or what's the game plan? Speaker A: We didn't really do much, honestly. It was pretty, it was pretty good. Um, it's like everybody went skiing. We— I mean, today was the coolest thing because we toured this guy Rolf Sachs' house. Um, and he's like a artist and designer from here. His dad is like this legend. So we went to his house, which is pretty fucking incredible. It's maybe the craziest kitchen I've ever seen. And he had like a— he had a table the length of the entire room, like a 25-foot dining table.

And it had— it was a glass top with what looked like snow inside of it. And he said to all of us, to like a group of 30 people, that's only enough for one season, as a cocaine joke. Which I was really— I was really appreciative of that. Speaker B: That's my Rolf. Speaker A: I was very appreciative of Rolf's vibe. Um, but no, it's not— no, it's not crazy. I mean, most people went skiing and shit, but we went to this place called Dracula's, which is the famous sort of members club where every guy— do you know that, you know, that rich European guy look that's sort of like longish hair, white button-down shirt, blue blazer, pants are a little too skinny, maybe some Loro Piana shoes?

They've definitely had sex with their second cousin kind of vibe. Speaker B: And I don't, I don't eat, I don't eat children all the time, but I've tried it at a party. Speaker A: Yeah, I've had, I've, I've only had a bite of children. But the, the thing of, the thing about this club was that it was, it was sort of like the way that members clubs in this place is called Dracula's, just to Dracula's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: And it's, it's basically like not really, uh, defeating the— Speaker A: no, they're not meeting the allegations, but the vibe is The vibe is just like, hey man, you can smoke in here.

We stay open till we feel like it. It's, it's, it's actually what one of these places is supposed to be like from my— I mean, obviously I stayed till 12:30. It wasn't like I was there till 3 AM, but it does— it had a feeling of like, oh, you can actually— I think people actually party here. Okay. It's not like, uh, it's not guys making deals for their private equity firm. Speaker B: Okay. And I'm assuming no women are allowed, right? Speaker A: No, women are allowed and encouraged actually. I'm not sure if they're um, how do I say it, paid to be there, or if, or if they're joining just for fun.

Speaker B: Do they, do you think they paper the room a little bit? Speaker A: I don't think, I don't think, I, I don't think so actually in my case. But so I guess the way St. Moritz works is there's two seasons. So we're here, this is the last weekend of like the winter season. So I think people are really turning up because it's their last gasp before they head back to, you know, sell multi-million dollar properties in Munich or whatever these people do. Speaker B: So they're going to do it one more time.

Speaker A: Yeah, but we did karaoke. We did karaoke. We did karaoke last night, which I did actually. I did quite enjoy. Speaker B: Uh-huh. What Cure song did you get booed over? Speaker A: See, Jason, that's what you thought. That's what you thought. I would never do that because even though I'm not a karaoke professional, I do know which songs are appropriate and which songs aren't. Speaker A: Yeah, but we did karaoke. We did karaoke. We did karaoke last night, which I did actually. I did quite enjoy. Speaker B: Uh-huh.

What Cure song did you get booed over? Speaker A: See, Jason, that's what you thought. That's what you thought. I would never do that because even though I'm not a karaoke professional, I do know which songs are appropriate and which songs aren't. Speaker B: Okay. So in the Swiss Alps, I'm assuming you did N-Words in Paris then. Went over a treat. Speaker A: Yeah, I did a Jack Harlow song. No, I did Mr. Brightside by The Killers, a crowd favorite. Everybody knows the words. I couldn't do a deep cut. No one wants that.

You know what I mean? But it felt like The Killers was an appropriate— Jealousy. It felt like an appropriate— It felt appropriate for me and the audience, I guess, or the crowd, if you will. Okay. Speaker B: Yeah. That's the thing about you and karaoke. You don't do it for you. You do it for your fans. Speaker A: I'm just giving it back to the people. I really do think it's funny that— that occasionally people will try to do something like clever, and it's like, that's not what this is for.

No, like, this is not— if you've, if you've had 14 glasses of soju, no one wants to hear a Talking Heads B-side, you know what I mean? This is not that kind of situation. You got to do, you got to do the hit. There's, there's 10 songs everybody knows that you have to do. Speaker B: Okay, well, there's the, there's the— we're gonna do the hits. You can, you can do— we're gonna do For the Girls and the Gays, or yes, You can do one where it's like, I'm going to put on a show the way that an animal attracts the, the, their mate in the wild.

Speaker B: Okay, well, there's the, there's the— we're gonna do the hits. You can, you can do— we're gonna do For the Girls and the Gays, or yes, You can do one where it's like, I'm going to put on a show the way that an animal attracts the, the, their mate in the wild. Speaker A: Yes. Speaker B: I'm going to play a panty dropper. Speaker A: I, I think that, I think there's two ways to do it. I think you do a Cher song or if the best, the best thing that's ever— Speaker B: Cher as in the artist or you and some friends share the song?

Speaker A: Actually both, Jason. That's a good— thank you for pointing that out. Speaker B: But I guess what duet. Speaker A: I used to do— I used to go to— there was a bar in Atlanta called The Local, and they had karaoke on Monday nights. And every Monday it would be the usual, like, drunk people doing the usual karaoke shit. And then there was this one woman who would show up, and it was absolute murder. Just could sing her ass off. Like, I— she probably sold insurance for a living, and this was like her bet, the best night of her week.

I think if you secretly can really go for it, then you, you're allowed to do that in the karaoke setting. Yeah, no matter what the song is. I think the song can be whatever you want if you can sing like that. Speaker B: Have you ever used karaoke as a means to get some chon chon, as they say? Speaker A: I've only done karaoke a few times in my life, to be honest with you. Speaker B: I just think it's interesting how you've only done it a few times in your life, but you really seem to talk like a— Speaker A: well, it's a pretty easy concept to, to understand, and if you've been a part of it, even if not performing, you clearly know what works and what doesn't work.

Speaker B: I, I think that karaoke should have an eject button. And I feel like just, just like on the TV show when you like use the— Adam from Maroon 5 smacks the button and their chair turns around. I think they should do that as well for karaoke. If, if everyone realize, you know, like we're in verse 2 and this bitch can't sing for shit, or this guy's wasted and ruining this Kanye song, get him out, pull the plug. Speaker B: I, I think that karaoke should have an eject button.

And I feel like just, just like on the TV show when you like use the— Adam from Maroon 5 smacks the button and their chair turns around. I think they should do that as well for karaoke. If, if everyone realize, you know, like we're in verse 2 and this bitch can't sing for shit, or this guy's wasted and ruining this Kanye song, get him out, pull the plug. Speaker A: I think so. Oh, I think so too. Well, I think that's I think his— I don't think they feel empowered to do this, but that should be the karaoke administrator, the leader.

So whoever is queuing up the songs, who has power over the sound system, the chairman should also— yeah, the chairman of the— the chairman of the board of the karaoke night should, you're right, have an eject button. And it could be comically large and red, just like Adam, you know. Just let's have some fun with it, you know. Let's bang that fucking thing, you know. Speaker B: So I wanted to really quick, and then we'll just get into the news of the world and everything going on, but I I have a personal thing going on in my life involving you.

Carolyn got this hand soap and we both have agreed that it smells like, unfortunately, Chris Black. Speaker A: Like my pheromones, or you mean the mix of scents that I put on my body when I come to visit your home? Speaker B: Yes. All of it. No, I think it's a mix of your natural musk, oud, pheromones, bacterias, but also your, um, your, your Comme des Garçons scent. What, what's it called? Wormwood? Wildwood? Speaker B: Yes. All of it. No, I think it's a mix of your natural musk, oud, pheromones, bacterias, but also your, um, your, your Comme des Garçons scent.

What, what's it called? Wormwood? Wildwood? Speaker A: Uh, Wonderwood. Speaker B: Wood Oven? Wonderwood. I said, yeah, so it's a little Wonderwood mixed with just your, all of your uptown funk that's emitting from your tiny snatchy little pores. But whatever it is, I put it on my hands and I, I say He's in the room with us, isn't he? Speaker A: Well, let's give them— well, I'm sorry to haunt your home more than I already do. Speaker B: But what is the— Speaker A: let's talk about it. What is it?

Because I'll buy it. What is it? Speaker B: You are home hunter. Okay. It's from our good people over at Freddie Malle. Editions de Parfum. Freddie Malle. And the scent is called Anterania. Anterania. All right. Speaker A: How do I spell it? Please spell it out. Speaker B: A-N-T. E-R-E-N-E-A. Speaker A: I got it pulled up. Oh, it's only $75. All right. Well, thank you for that. Speaker B: This hand soap is only $75. Yeah. Speaker A: Yeah. But they offer complimentary gift wrapping. No, that's good to know actually because Frederick Moll makes so much stuff that it's tough to know which one.

Like you have to really go in if you want to figure out what works for you. So that's good to know that. Speaker B: I have the one called Uncut Gem and like whenever I wear it and smoke a cigarette around our friend of the show Ryland. He gets a chub. Like, he's a straight guy married to a woman, but he's like, oh, when you, you know, like, he— it drives him wild. Cowboy butts drive him nuts. But then I— my wife that I'm married to, I spray it on, she goes, ugh, I don't like it, it just doesn't work.

So, well, it does. Speaker B: I have the one called Uncut Gem and like whenever I wear it and smoke a cigarette around our friend of the show Ryland. He gets a chub. Like, he's a straight guy married to a woman, but he's like, oh, when you, you know, like, he— it drives him wild. Cowboy butts drive him nuts. But then I— my wife that I'm married to, I spray it on, she goes, ugh, I don't like it, it just doesn't work. So, well, it does. Speaker A: That's what's so powerful about it.

Speaker B: This shit was $300 fucking dollars. Goddamn, this is $350. Speaker A: I didn't— I didn't pay— Speaker B: I didn't pay the principal. Okay, so the, the— I, I pulled— Speaker A: I'm looking at the notes. I'm looking at it too. Speaker B: Let me read them. Speaker A: Lavender. Speaker B: Hold on. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: It's— you're just going straight to the words. I want to go to the— Speaker A: I don't want to— the paragraph is too much. Speaker B: It captures the scent of the Basque Country, which is more of my zone than yours.

The blessed region of southwest France between the countryside mountains. Speaker A: Sure, of course. Speaker B: You know, neighboring San Sebastian. But it's created by Fred for his own personal use. But yeah, lavender, geranium, cinnamon, and sandalwood. It's a noble, elegant scent, old-fashioned charm. Touch of nostalgia. Speaker A: Freddie's personal stash. That's pretty— that's like— because I feel like, you know, they mark— you know, they let other people create the scents over here. So it's nice to know that the big dog took this one upon himself, if you will. Speaker B: He said, I want this one.

He said, let me have one tonight. Speaker A: All right, well, that's good to— that's good to know, actually. This is the last thing I need, another— another thing to fucking buy. Speaker B: So all of our listeners out there, we— there's no promo code. Freddie doesn't give me any money. Speaker A: They might charge you extra, actually. So don't— just, just go to the website. Don't mention us at all. Speaker B: But if you want— if you want to smell like black This is what you buy. Speaker A: All right, well, that's good to— that's good to know, actually.

This is the last thing I need, another— another thing to fucking buy. Speaker B: So all of our listeners out there, we— there's no promo code. Freddie doesn't give me any money. Speaker A: They might charge you extra, actually. So don't— just, just go to the website. Don't mention us at all. Speaker B: But if you want— if you want to smell like black This is what you buy. Speaker A: This is that. This is, yeah, this is what you buy. You can, it's only $75. It's a steal if you think about it.

All right. Well, what's, yeah, I mean, there's a lot going on. There's a lot going on and I'm just, I'm happy to be alive. Speaker B: Trouble in the Middle East. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: What were you got? What do you have? Speaker A: I mean, I think that the Jack Harlow gift this week has been, I guess there's some things that feel like they've really— they're meant for Twitter. And I think Jack Harlow putting out a neo-soul album and giving the world a chance to be creative with new nicknames for him has been one of the better uses of the platform in a very long time.

Speaker B: Okay, there you're saying, you know, with all the distractions that are fed to us every day, this is finally a plate that we are excited to sink our teeth into versus, you know, this and this and FBI is going to be trained by the UFC and, you know, all this horseshit that we're reading. Bow Wow looks like shit, blah blah blah. But this is some real stuff where it's like, this is sort of like teach a man to fish and he can feed it, you know, teach a man how to make fun of Jack Harlow's clothing and music and you'll learn how to Twitter.

Speaker A: It's just, it's just like the perfect low stakes Like, it's not really like nobody— I mean, some people are mad, but most people aren't mad. They just see it as fun into this. I mean, I'm sure you have your favorites. I of course have mine. Speaker B: Favorite what? Speaker A: Favorite, uh, renamings that they've done of Jack. Speaker B: Oh, I thought I was— I was like, please don't make me name a song off this album. I don't know any of the tracks. Oh, so it's more so the, uh, you know, calling him White Thought or Neo.

Nazi, or what are the other ones? There's some good ones. Speaker A: See, I felt like, I feel like Neo-Nazi went a little too far. Of course, that felt like the joke is— I think that Charlie Kirk Franklin, on the other hand, is a— that's nice stuff. D'Anglo is also very good. D'Anglo is a little tough to say, you know what I mean? It doesn't flow. It doesn't— it— when you look at it, you don't say it properly, but then you think about it, which maybe makes it imperfect. Speaker B: Yeah, you got to do a double take.

Speaker A: But there's just— it's just been an unbelievable— because I guess was a surprise that he switched his sound up a little bit. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions.

But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week. And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week.

And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. Speaker B: The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in, in what, uh, journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at, uh, stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcast. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And, and who couldn't use more news, you know, especially, especially when it's when it's not, you know, from here, let's say.

Give it a listen. Give it a listen. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by our best friends at BetterHelp. Jason, we're deep into May, which is Mental Health Awareness Month, and this is just a reminder that whatever you're going through, you don't have to go through it alone. Life is a damn journey. Some days feel good and others feel overwhelming. Whatever's keeping you up at night, it's easy to feel like you have to figure it all out on your own. But the truth is no one has all the answers.

Well, and no journey should be alone. Having someone with you to listen, to understand, and to support you can really make all the difference. Speaker B: I agree, Chris. And sometimes, you know, it, it's nice to be talking to somebody even if they're not even listening, even if you don't even get to be in the same room with them, because what you're doing is you're admitting these things to yourself. And that's the most, that's the most rewarding thing you can do sometimes. So you can have a great little therapy sesh with your perfect therapist at BetterHelp.

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com/howlong. Yeah, and there's, there's the little kind of rumblings of, you know, what exactly does Monica mean and why did you call it that. And, you know, for, for those who know, kind of thing, um, saying that it's, it's how you would say my n-word as, as a little underground Easter egg slang, the same way people will say he's zesty instead of gay, or— Speaker A: I, I had never heard of that until— I never heard of that. Speaker B: Neither have I. Speaker A: Neither have I. I think Jack's having fun.

I don't think Jack's gonna do that. I think that's a little— that's, that's a little crazy to me. Speaker B: That it's giving like let's go Brandon energy. Like, I don't think he's doing that. It's, it's a little too ho scary. He probably just, you know, thinks that a woman named Monica is sexy, and that's, that's it. I mean, it's the name of a hot woman, so like it seems on brand with whatever he's doing. That's true. Speaker A: That's true. Speaker B: But I I think his, um, I watched a little, some clips when he was on the, uh, the Pupcast, and he was just saying, I, I guess it was refreshing how he was just kind of saying like, hey, I'm, I just really like this music, I'm, I'm paying homage to it.

I guess the, the dressing like it, is it a little, you know, like if we get accused of gay baiting, is he Black baiting, or is he— well, the funny thing is, is he, is he, is he paying homage or is he appropriating, you know? Speaker A: I mean, he's wearing From what I understand, my sources are telling me he's wearing almost all Lauren Manoogian, which is a very niche New York brand that is mostly for women. So it's like, I don't— I know what the Kangol is and the glasses feel more of a giveaway than the actual clothes.

Speaker B: Lauren Manoogian? Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: There's a store on Broome Street. Speaker B: Manoogian! Speaker A: It's good. It's good. But it's just, it's just a funny— I found that out this weekend. I was like, oh, that's a, that's a real deep cut. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I guess. Speaker B: Is it potentially too deep? For his core to understand it? Or are they going to be like, I thought this was all South Pole. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: There's a store on Broome Street.

Speaker B: Manoogian! Speaker A: It's good. It's good. But it's just, it's just a funny— I found that out this weekend. I was like, oh, that's a, that's a real deep cut. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I guess. Speaker B: Is it potentially too deep? For his core to understand it? Or are they going to be like, I thought this was all South Pole. Speaker A: Definitely his core is definitely, definitely does not know what the fuck that is. Most people listening to this podcast don't know what that is. Speaker B: I mean, I don't.

Speaker A: So it's not, I just, I just think that it's the podcast thing. When he said, I'm, I, my music got blacker. I think he got in, he got a little in a little trouble for that. But I just don't think that that's like a serious, I think that was like a pretty, I don't know. I guess when 3 white guys are sitting around saying that it doesn't, it doesn't look great. Speaker B: No, no, no, no, it doesn't. I know. I mean, it's a tricky one, but I guess I applaud him for, you know, wading out into uncharted waters, taking some risks.

If he knows that in his heart he is of pure intention and he's not trying to appropriate anything and he's trying to pay homage. But, you know, I'll give him his props for taking a chance and going hanging out on that ledge. But, you know, I got to say, though, that ledge gets slippery sometimes and your ass can fall. Speaker A: I, you know, I haven't heard someone talk about an album this much in a long time. I think it's, it's really taken over the, the discourse for multiple days, which is virtually impossible in today's climate.

Speaker B: I mean, and it all started because him and Melanie from Gia did a video talking about dudes or something, you know, and then it snowballed into all of this. Speaker B: I mean, and it all started because him and Melanie from Gia did a video talking about dudes or something, you know, and then it snowballed into all of this. Speaker A: That's what it— yeah, that's what non-alcoholic beverages can do for you. But I mean, I don't know what the— I don't— I didn't— I guess the streaming— the numbers aren't out yet.

Because it's, it's too soon. But I have a feeling it will do pretty well. Speaker B: I'm sure it'll do just fine. Yeah, I don't know. Um, we'll see. I haven't had a chance to give it a listen just quite yet. I'm, I'm still catching up on, uh, Harry. I listened to it yesterday. Speaker A: What did you get for the first time? It is, it has grown on me a little bit, I have to say. There's still only a couple songs I really like, but it's not as— I've given it, uh, more time than I give most things.

I'll— which is my fault. I bet. Speaker B: Well, it's not your fault. You, you like the guy, you want to give him more chances. That's all it is. But I, I don't know. I was listening to it. It's— to me, it's a tweener album. It's, it's a, it's a trope or a problem. I don't know if it's necessarily his fault or if it's like the, uh, the major label overlords that control his creative decisions and, and order of choices or whatever. But it reminds— it reminded me of, um, you know, a lot— it reminded me more of Coldplay than LCD Soundsystem a little bit.

Um, parentheses derogatory, but there's a thing in, in music and in pop music, I've noticed it before, where like if there's a dance song that's like a 4 on the floor kind of, you know, LCD Soundsystem beat, just like a kick, a drum, and a snare, that can be a little bit of a turn-off to a, a global mainstream audience. There needs to be— and, and also I noticed it before for when there would be, like, back in the day when I would DJ and they'd make kind of like club remixes of, of those types of songs, but they would add in a little bit of like a shuffly kind of drum beat that's kind of like—

Speaker A: what was the song that this happened to that we talked about a lot? Oh, the, um, Steve Lacy song. Not the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that I remember that being like similar. Speaker B: Yeah, similar vibe to where like if this song had these different, a different drum programming or different drum pattern, it will appeal to a wider audience or a different audience or whatever. And it's like, um, you know, so many people are just like averse to that drum pattern regardless of if it's being played by, you know, just a guy on a drum kit or a random dude on a drum machine in Berlin or whatever.

If it has that, it just, whatever it is, it has that oomph energy that can just automatically turn people off. They won't give it a chance. Speaker A: I am people. Speaker B: So you're one of those people, but also you're not the type of person where it's like, oh, if this song just had like a world music backbeat to it, then everything would be all good. Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Speaker B: But it's just such a bummer when you're like, you're doing this LCD thing, you've got the synths going, it's pumping, there's a disco beat, and then it has to break into this kind of like Coldplay world music, don't worry, everything's going to be okay kind of thing of like, you know, your parents can listen to it and not want to turn it off, and people all over the country are gonna be okay, you know.

Speaker A: But is it possible that this is what— like, I, I know exactly what you mean. I guess I'm, I'm asking, is it possible that this is like how people's minds work now, regardless of the— because they know it will work, whether they're like conscious of that or not? Speaker A: But is it possible that this is what— like, I, I know exactly what you mean. I guess I'm, I'm asking, is it possible that this is like how people's minds work now, regardless of the— because they know it will work, whether they're like conscious of that or not?

Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: Do you understand what I'm saying? Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: Like, is it, is it, is it like, well, this is what— this is what I naturally came to, but it also fills the box that you're talking about. Speaker B: Yeah, it is possible. But also, you know, obviously I'm a, I'm a person who does not make music for a living criticizing somebody who has $100 million doing it. And so, you know, it's just one person's opinion. But that's, that's where the tweener part comes in, where I don't know if it's making anyone happy when you're trying to please everyone.

I mean, you end up sort of, yeah, yeah, you know, limping in and like No one's gonna hate it, but no one is— Speaker A: I mean, the sales are crazy. Speaker B: Pleased. Speaker A: Like, it's like 450,000, you know, it's like big, which is, is not surprising, obviously, because I think that we talked about this before, he's in one of those positions where it doesn't really matter what kind of music he puts out, it'll do what it needs to do, which is crippling in some ways. But I just don't— Speaker B: I also think it needs to do everything but be great.

Speaker A: I think that Harry— I actually think someone like Harry Styles is in a position where the label lets him do whatever he wants. I do not think they're giving— yeah, I really doubt that anyone is coming in and giving any sort of like actual feedback. Speaker B: They're gonna give feedback, then it's his fault for being a pussy and not going, not doubling down, not going. Speaker A: But that's what I'm saying to you. That's what I'm saying to you. I think he does it. I don't think he wants to double down.

That's what I'm trying to say. I don't think he's like at that point. I mean, I don't know if, um, Coldplay is a funny example though. You're totally— I know exactly. I just know exactly what you're talking about. Speaker B: They're gonna give feedback, then it's his fault for being a pussy and not going, not doubling down, not going. Speaker A: But that's what I'm saying to you. That's what I'm saying to you. I think he does it. I don't think he wants to double down. That's what I'm trying to say.

I don't think he's like at that point. I mean, I don't know if, um, Coldplay is a funny example though. You're totally— I know exactly. I just know exactly what you're talking about. Speaker B: You know, British white guy stadium music, everything's gonna be okay. Hey, happy fun dancing. We're not going to single out or make anyone feel uncomfortable in the crowd. And when you do that, when you round all the edges off, you're left with a little squishy ball. Speaker A: I don't know if a band like Coldplay or someone like Harry Styles has ever done anything but this though, in their own way.

Like, I don't think that— you don't get that popular doing anything with edges is the reality. Speaker B: True. Speaker A: Like, really, you know what I mean? Really, really. Like, you have to sort of I think there's an— if you were in one direction, like, you're never— you're sort of— you can have great taste, but I think you're sort of— your DNA is kind of like, this is what I know how to do. Speaker B: I mean, pardon the pun, but I wish that musically he would pick one direction and go with it instead of— motherfucker went from one direction to all the directions.

Speaker A: I mean, yo, there's four directions, bro. Can you pick one? I mean, I think that that is also— Speaker B: which way? Speaker A: Yes, that is also the case of the the pop star who's like, I need to do something different, you know. That's just what always happens at every level, which I'll sort of— I'll always understand but also never understand. But again, I have no skill, so I'm just— I like what I want, what I want, and that's not necessarily what you want to give me, and that's fair.

Speaker A: Yes, that is also the case of the the pop star who's like, I need to do something different, you know. That's just what always happens at every level, which I'll sort of— I'll always understand but also never understand. But again, I have no skill, so I'm just— I like what I want, what I want, and that's not necessarily what you want to give me, and that's fair. Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. Speaker A: Did you watch SNL? Speaker B: No, I, I only saw the clip of him doing the Tucker impression, but I'm famously saving it for my Sunday night meal.

Speaker A: The Tucker confession— the Tucker impression was pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. Very I haven't watched a lot of— I didn't watch a lot of Tucker. I haven't watched a lot of Tucker, but I just, I could feel the spirit. There's like a couple catchphrases that he says in the, and I could feel them. I just knew they were real. I didn't need to know, but I knew they were real. It like felt spiritually right, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Speaker B: It's interesting that now I've been seeing a lot of Tucker impressions pop up on my feed from him and other people who are not on television.

And it's, I'm wondering why it's happening now. Now that he's sort of— I don't know, he's, he's not really in the, in the limelight the way he was a few years ago. Speaker A: That's why it's happening now. I think nobody looks at it as like— I don't think he's seen as like a danger anymore. So you can just— so you can sort of just make fun of him. It's not— you know what I mean? Speaker B: Now that he's off the leash, he's a, he's a dog in a yard that we can just throw rocks at and have a laugh.

And, you know, he's gonna— Speaker A: I don't even know where, where do you watch that show? Is it on— is it a YouTube thing? Speaker B: I guess. I don't know, Rumble, Twitch, or— Speaker B: Now that he's off the leash, he's a, he's a dog in a yard that we can just throw rocks at and have a laugh. And, you know, he's gonna— Speaker A: I don't even know where, where do you watch that show? Is it on— is it a YouTube thing? Speaker B: I guess. I don't know, Rumble, Twitch, or— Speaker A: this is what I mean.

We don't That's what I mean. We don't even know where to watch it. That's how, like, if you're on Fox News, like, I can turn on the TV and hear what you have to say. If it's— if I got to search 3 times on 3 different platforms, it's a little bit of a different ballgame. Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm sure the— oddly enough, the only people that watch it are like people who are our parents' age who live in Appalachia, and Red Scare listeners are really the only ones paying attention to it.

But It reminds— or I guess watching him, whenever I do watch him in a clip, yes, he may be an evil person, but he's a, he's a silver-tongued talker, and he's, you know, he's smart enough to really engage and get the attention of people. Smart and dumb. And it reminds me a lot of, uh, the manosphere doc that I watched, the, uh, the Louis Theroux. I don't know if you watched it yet on your ski trip. Speaker A: No, the only Louis— the only, the only Louis Theroux— the only Louis Theroux I watched is when he tried to reunite the Libertines.

Um, that was more in my, in my wheelhouse. Speaker B: Sure. Speaker A: Legendary though. Legendary. He's also in the new— he's in like a new Nike Air Max 95 campaign in the UK, which I found very funny. But I, I've heard good things though. Speaker B: Yeah, it's— I guess with him and, and with Tucker, like, you, you see these people in the manosphere and you see how, you know, they're just very charismatic. They're very good at kind of the jiu-jitsu wiggling out of points and things, and you see how they grow in popularity because they're just like saying whatever they want and somehow, some way getting away with it.

It was weird watching it because they— it's like when people watch Trump and you're like, this guy is evil, he's ruining the world, he's a pedophile, sex trafficker, blah, blah, blah. But everyone's like, he's freaking awesome. You know, he's so funny. He says the one thing, shut up, piggy, whatever. And it's kind of the same thing. I think the manosphere, all these guys are just sort of— it's all because of Trump, if you ask me. Speaker B: Yeah, it's— I guess with him and, and with Tucker, like, you, you see these people in the manosphere and you see how, you know, they're just very charismatic.

They're very good at kind of the jiu-jitsu wiggling out of points and things, and you see how they grow in popularity because they're just like saying whatever they want and somehow, some way getting away with it. It was weird watching it because they— it's like when people watch Trump and you're like, this guy is evil, he's ruining the world, he's a pedophile, sex trafficker, blah, blah, blah. But everyone's like, he's freaking awesome. You know, he's so funny. He says the one thing, shut up, piggy, whatever. And it's kind of the same thing.

I think the manosphere, all these guys are just sort of— it's all because of Trump, if you ask me. Speaker A: What do you mean? Speaker B: It's just like he, he showed, he showed a nation of young men that you could kind of just say and do whatever you want and for the most part not really have any consequences, and you can just kind of get away with it. Speaker A: I'm gonna watch this maybe tomorrow, but what is the— I guess, who are there? Like, are they like prominent people that are featured, like people we know?

Speaker B: The one I, I had heard of, Sneako, he was the one person that I had already heard of. But there's some other guys who are great. Speaker A: So it's not like Andrew Tate. It's not. Speaker B: He's in it a little bit. He's in it a little bit. There's like 3 main guys, all like 2 British dudes. They follow. And then the last one, Sneako, just him hanging out in New York. But I think he's the most famous one. He's like bros with Kanye. Speaker A: So it's not like Andrew Tate.

It's not. Speaker B: He's in it a little bit. He's in it a little bit. There's like 3 main guys, all like 2 British dudes. They follow. And then the last one, Sneako, just him hanging out in New York. But I think he's the most famous one. He's like bros with Kanye. Speaker A: But what is Sneako? What is his discipline? Speaker B: Is he a Filipino? Speaker A: No, no. I'm saying like, what is his platform for getting off his manosphere? Speaker B: I think he's on Kick or something like that or Twitter.

I think he's been banned from every platform because he's very like— Speaker A: Oh, he's that extreme. Speaker B: Kind of, yeah. But he's also like very good at arguing and he, you know, he kind of shuts a lot of people up and shuts them down. But, you know, it's the— I guess the slippery slope of it is when you see the footage of like, you know, 10-year-old boys who see him in the street and run up and say like, fuck n-words and gay people should die. You know, there's like— they just yell the most crazy stuff at these people in hopes that they're going to be like, hey, awesome.

Like, you're, you're extreme and you're gnarly. So— and I've seen clips like that all the time where everything is all hunky-dory. Until you see a fucking, you know, 12-year-old boy say like, fuck gay people on camera in front of him. Speaker A: God, I didn't know that. Speaker B: That's— and instead of, instead of saying like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't say that, that's bad, that's wrong. They're like, oh, you guys are crazy. All right, see you later. Stay up. Speaker A: God, I didn't know that. Speaker B: That's— and instead of, instead of saying like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't say that, that's bad, that's wrong.

They're like, oh, you guys are crazy. All right, see you later. Stay up. Speaker A: Yeah, there's not stay up. I just, I guess I just don't— Speaker B: you guys want a selfie? Speaker A: Like, part of me wants to watch this because obviously it's like, you know, interesting and of the moment and, you know, we're talking about it. But a part of me is also like, I just don't care. Like, I don't know, I guess I feel like we've— the world has tried to unpack this phenomenon so much, and it's sort of just every time the, the final answer to me just feels like they're bad.

And I don't really know, I, I just don't know if I care where it stems from, I guess is my point. Speaker B: Okay, well, you care enough about what's going on Below Deck to watch that, but this is the real world, Chris. Speaker A: But I guess I just mean like when people are this stupid I'm not sure if I need to know what makes them tick. Speaker B: But that's— that— I don't know if I would call them stupid. Some of these people are more well-spoken and educated than we were at their age, for sure.

Speaker A: Being educated and well-spoken doesn't mean you're not stupid. That's too— that's— that's too different. I think it's— if you're— if your ideals are so, like, so dumb, I don't care how smart you sound when you tell me about them. Speaker B: Sure, sure. Speaker A: Like, it doesn't— those two things— those two things are at odds with each— those can be— you can have a fucking You know, you can have a degree from Yale and a master's from Harvard and still be dumb. That, that's not, you know, it's like those two things are different, at least for me.

Speaker B: Okay, I feel you. Speaker A: But I think these guys— but I think these guys— the other funny thing is I feel like these guys like to use the word like debate. Yeah, like they like to say, like instead of saying argue or make— I don't know what the— I don't know, there's many other phrases they could use, but they try to say debate to make it feel a little more elevated, I would say, like a little, a little more robust than them. Like, bro, you're in a— you're in your fucking garage in Miami talking to a camera.

Like, you're not— like, like, don't act like— don't act like we're in our fucking senior year at a prestigious boarding school. And, you know, and we're— it's, it's not like you're not debating anyone. You're sort of talking into the ether. I guess they bring— but then they, they bring people on to battle. Is that the idea? Speaker B: Okay, I feel you. Speaker A: But I think these guys— but I think these guys— the other funny thing is I feel like these guys like to use the word like debate. Yeah, like they like to say, like instead of saying argue or make— I don't know what the— I don't know, there's many other phrases they could use, but they try to say debate to make it feel a little more elevated, I would say, like a little, a little more robust than them.

Like, bro, you're in a— you're in your fucking garage in Miami talking to a camera. Like, you're not— like, like, don't act like— don't act like we're in our fucking senior year at a prestigious boarding school. And, you know, and we're— it's, it's not like you're not debating anyone. You're sort of talking into the ether. I guess they bring— but then they, they bring people on to battle. Is that the idea? Speaker B: Yeah, people— yeah, they, they love to debate, and then they all use, you know, straw man and this man and that man, and it's It's like playing chess or whatever.

It's like, hey, we can't just have a conversation and live and learn and change each other's minds, thoughts, and opinions. There has to be a winner and a loser. It has to be classic or trash, or else there's no reason in engaging in any discourse whatsoever. If, you know, it's like, well, I'm not going to— I'm not going to spar with you unless I'm going to win $30 million from Jake Paul or whatever. There's no point. In arguing if there can't be a winner and a loser. And these guys are not like, I guess, like you said, they're not so intelligent or well-versed in the subjects.

They're just good at the fight itself. Yeah. Speaker A: They want to fight. They want to be right, but they want to win more than they want to be right. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: Yeah. Speaker B: Yeah. They just want to win the argument. Speaker A: I just don't know. I guess I just don't know when we— It seems to me like this is the kind of thing and we're part of the problem, like many other people in our position, But we keep, I think, talking about it all the time and analyzing it is throwing gas on the fire.

And I think this is exactly an example of something. If it was completely ignored, it would go away. Speaker B: Right. Speaker A: Right. To some degree. Speaker B: I guess debated people debate people, as they say. And, you know, this is all, these are all survival mechanisms. And these are all, as they say, these are all, you know, traumatized people who have, you know, come up in some one way or another. And the only— and unfortunately their survival technique is to tell their like mail-order bride to get in the kitchen and make them a sandwich while they, you know, live stream a video game.

I think it's also ask women what their body count is. Speaker A: It's also, it's also the case of like a movement, to give it too much credit, being, um, it's ugly. Like everything about it is aesthetically disgusting. Like they're on ugly platforms, they dress like shit, everything they say, like it's almost like what they— like before they even open their mouths, I'm out. But I'm like, I don't like the— and nothing about this is appealing to anybody that has any sort of taste or decorum. It's ugly. Well, it's, it's like revolting.

Speaker B: I think it's because their core demographic are, you know, 9 to 19 year olds. Speaker B: I think it's because their core demographic are, you know, 9 to 19 year olds. Speaker A: Totally, totally. Speaker B: That's what, you know, they're the inside of these 45 year old guys' houses. Look like fucking Soulja Boy's, you know, game room or whatever. And they're, they're unfortunately, you know, their poor Latina wife has to, you know, clean up the cause sculptures. And, you know, she's hitting Fabuloso on the Supreme pinball machine.

Speaker A: Hey, bitch, clean up that cause sculpture right fucking now. Every time I go to the doctor, I walk out of that bitch feeling dumb. I got no real info. This guy in a white coat just say, you're fine, you know, drink more water. Speaker B: He knows how to charge my copay. Speaker A: Exactly. Speaker B: That's about it. Speaker A: As if I could drink more water, doctor. I, I don't get data. I don't get a game plan. I just get a pat on the ass and get out there and, and make it better.

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Speaker B: I want to hear about good, cool stuff. I know, cars, women, and drugs. Speaker A: Cool stuff is a young man's game. Yeah, I just, I, I just, I never really thought about how aesthetically, uh, displeasing it is to look at all that. Like the way that Andrew Tate's pants fit I'm just like, I can't even start with you, bro. Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to be die workwear, but I'm like, bro, come on. Speaker B: I want to hear about good, cool stuff. I know, cars, women, and drugs.

Speaker A: Cool stuff is a young man's game. Yeah, I just, I, I just, I never really thought about how aesthetically, uh, displeasing it is to look at all that. Like the way that Andrew Tate's pants fit I'm just like, I can't even start with you, bro. Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to be die workwear, but I'm like, bro, come on. Speaker B: Like you guys, it's a non-starter. Speaker A: Yeah. It's just, it's sort of a, yeah, exactly. It's sort of just a non-starter, I guess is a good way to put it.

Speaker B: What if there was a streamer for the rest of us, Chris? Instead of Big Clav streaming 24 hours a day for a month straight, or IShowSpeed, you know, streaming for 11 months in a row and making $900 million or in a weekend or whatever. What if there was just guys, a couple of guys, they did it for 28 minutes a month and they look cool, they dress nice. Speaker A: What if, what if you could see it on YouTube completely for free? This is just an idea. This is just something that we've been kicking around.

Speaker B: Yeah. You don't— and you're— there's no situation where you Cash App us $20 so you could— so we can— so we're forced to read your comment that says "Heil Hitler" on a, on a stream for 11,000 17-year-olds. Speaker A: What if I just— we're proposing a different way, guys. There's a different way to do this. Uh, I did read though, I did read that Kai Cenat thing that he, in his streaming career, which is not— I, I can't imagine it's over 5 years long. No, he's made $900 million and that is why he's, he's stopping.

He's not going to stream anymore so he could focus on his Abysmal clothing brand and his acting career. $900 million. Mm-hmm. Speaker B: Very impressive. Speaker A: That's like truly unbelievable. Like, I don't— that math does not compute for— I'm having a really hard time, like, putting that together. Speaker B: I mean, if you're going through it, imagine if you're, like, a talented, famous person who's been doing this for decades and not— hasn't even hit a fraction of that. You know what I mean? Speaker A: Dude, it's— Speaker B: I mean, like, we were just talking about Coldplay.

They sell out fucking— you know, like, we went to Oasis. We're like, damn, these guys sold out Wembley fucking 3 nights in a row. Coldplay is like, we do 12 Wembleys a year for the last 20 years. Speaker A: Don't get us— don't get us started on Brazil. We'll shit on you. Speaker B: Yeah. What are, you know, all these people who are just doing so much and like Chris Martin from Coldplay does not have $900 million. Speaker A: No, no way. No way. Speaker B: And that motherfucker wrote Fix You.

Speaker A: I know, literally. That's a, that's a, that's a, I mean, generational classic song. I would say he's probably got 2 or 3 of those really. If you, if you want to get into it. Speaker B: Oh yeah. Real talk. Speaker A: If you really want to get into it. So the Oscars are tonight. Speaker B: I mean, or Harry Styles. Harry Styles probably doesn't have $100 million. In his bank account. And he's been making money since before Kaisenaut was alive for sure. Speaker A: Or at least he was young.

Speaker B: He was just a little baby. Speaker A: He was a little baby Kai. Yeah. The Oscars are tonight in LA and yo, yo, CAA lost the invite. Speaker B: Didn't get that invite to the party. What's up with that, y'all? Speaker A: I think that, yeah, I mean, they don't, they can barely, they've, they've never, they can't return an email. So I doubt that they don't know any home addresses, but the— Speaker B: Gadducci didn't get my invite tonight either. What's up with that? We got to get Can we get Mark on the pod?

Speaker B: Didn't get that invite to the party. What's up with that, y'all? Speaker A: I think that, yeah, I mean, they don't, they can barely, they've, they've never, they can't return an email. So I doubt that they don't know any home addresses, but the— Speaker B: Gadducci didn't get my invite tonight either. What's up with that? We got to get Can we get Mark on the pod? Speaker A: I, yeah, for sure. For sure. Speaker B: Yeah. He listens. I know. Speaker A: No, he was doing the rounds this week because they, yeah, he was a friend of the show.

Speaker B: Matt Bellini kind of gave him a couple lashes on the pod a couple of days ago. Speaker A: I mean, that's all Matt Bellini does. So at least as long as it's not the other nerd, I'm fine with it. The story, what I'm seeing is that they're saying Timothy blew it. That he was supposed to win the Oscar, and this video of him talking about the, the ballet and the opera not being good— which also, he said it when he was 19, this is years-old video— has ruined, torpedoed his chances to win an Oscar in a 2-week period, or whatever, through, you know, 2 to 3 week period.

And that Michael B. Jordan or someone else is going to win that award, and it was sort of his to lose. And, and who, how did this video, you know, what they're saying, it's an old school Weinstein style smear campaign where a lot of money is spent to sort of, you know, make something like this popular. I mean, and viral. Speaker B: Yeah. This, this happened literally a year ago with Emilia Perez. Yeah. Speaker A: Same thing. Yeah. Speaker B: I forgot Carla Sofia Gasson, you know, a week or two before all the, you know, the, the 10-year-old tweets surfaced and boom, it's over.

Not that she was in the forefront to win, but you know, she was a contender. And then— Speaker B: Yeah. This, this happened literally a year ago with Emilia Perez. Yeah. Speaker A: Same thing. Yeah. Speaker B: I forgot Carla Sofia Gasson, you know, a week or two before all the, you know, the, the 10-year-old tweets surfaced and boom, it's over. Not that she was in the forefront to win, but you know, she was a contender. And then— Speaker A: no, no, she was, she was, no, she was in the forefront to win, or at least like 1 and 2, you know, 1 or 2.

It was— she wasn't, she wasn't like the dark horse, I guess is what I'm saying. Speaker B: Okay, okay. Speaker A: But yeah, it's— Speaker B: I love us. I love a Weinstein-style smear. Speaker A: Oh, me too. Speaker B: This is why I get out of bed in the morning. Speaker A: Me too. But I also feel like there's been a lot more honesty around Marty Supreme as we've been removed from it a little bit. I feel like now people sort of make fun of it, whereas 3 months ago, this was the best thing that's ever happened to us in our entire lives.

And it didn't take that— it didn't take that long. Speaker B: All it takes is one little look on the other side, and then it's very— you're like, wait a minute. You kind of wipe the little crusties out of your eyes, and you say, wait a minute, Marty Supreme was a movie about a guy playing ping pong, and that's it. Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I just don't— I think a lot of things like that age poorly because you're just in the vortex of the promotion. It's like exciting because something's happening every day.

And it's like, you know, Timothée Chalamet is wearing fucking chrome hearts, you know, to the Knicks game and sitting with Tracy Morgan. And it's just sort of like, at a certain point, it's like, I just don't— I don't know what ages well anymore. Like, this is crazy because that movie hasn't aged well. It's been 3 months. Like, that's— that's not even aged. That's not— it's still— you could still technically, if you put that movie in the refrigerator, you could still heat it up and eat it, you know what I mean?

It's not that— it's not that crazy. It's not like it's been fucking 30 years. Like, it's not like The world has changed and our attitudes have changed. You know, it's like it's been 3 months and people are already talking about it sideways. Speaker B: Look, the gears of Hollywood turn faster and faster exponentially as time goes on. I really like the— I'm into the Sinners backlash where everyone is realizing that it's basically a remake of the film From Dusk Till Dawn, 1996's action horror film. Yeah, it was a— what was it?

It was George Clooney and Salma Hayek. And I remember a young, young TJ enjoying Salma Hayek's outfit. You've probably seen a couple video vixen hoes dressed as her for Halloween over the years. Speaker A: Oh, she was— because she was just wearing like a big baggy t-shirt and jeans. Speaker B: It was— she was wearing a snake, I believe. Speaker A: Like as a— you're saying the snake was draped over her shoulders like an outfit? Speaker B: That's right. There's, there's been a lot of, um, baddies over the years who have dressed like her for Halloween.

Speaker A: I think, I think of that, I think of that snake and, and this doesn't help me beat the charges, but as a Britney Spears thing. Speaker B: Yeah. Well, this is, this is pre-Britney. Speaker A: Pre. Okay. I got you. Speaker B: I got you. Speaker A: So this was inspired by, this could have inspired Britney. Speaker B: I mean, it's very possible. I've seen a lot of women do a little snake play. It doesn't really get me going sexually. Speaker A: Oh, I, yeah, I know this. I know this.

Jason sent me the photo. I know this. Okay. Speaker B: You know this. So you're saying that centers, but nobody, nobody's really going to Vavavoom, like a 1996 Salma Hayek. Like, come on, bro, that's, that's about as yummy as it gets. Speaker A: So you're, you're saying that, that people have— Speaker B: people are saying basically doing the research, basically saying like Sinners is basically just From Dusk Till Dawn, and then the, the sort of repercussions of that, or the, the realization of that, is like, if From Dusk Till Dawn was even nominated for a single award when it came out, there would have been like a Hollywood backlash So it's like, is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Have we come so far that this type of film is awesome and great and celebrated? Or have we, you know, strayed in the wrong direction where it's like, hey, you guys made this original concept 30 years ago and we're just going to take it and recast it with some other people and give it a little different flavor and say that it's ours now. Speaker B: You know this. So you're saying that centers, but nobody, nobody's really going to Vavavoom, like a 1996 Salma Hayek. Like, come on, bro, that's, that's about as yummy as it gets.

Speaker A: So you're, you're saying that, that people have— Speaker B: people are saying basically doing the research, basically saying like Sinners is basically just From Dusk Till Dawn, and then the, the sort of repercussions of that, or the, the realization of that, is like, if From Dusk Till Dawn was even nominated for a single award when it came out, there would have been like a Hollywood backlash So it's like, is this a good thing or a bad thing? Have we come so far that this type of film is awesome and great and celebrated?

Or have we, you know, strayed in the wrong direction where it's like, hey, you guys made this original concept 30 years ago and we're just going to take it and recast it with some other people and give it a little different flavor and say that it's ours now. Speaker A: And, you know, so isn't that what we have? Speaker B: I guess that's what every film does now. Speaker A: Yeah, I was about to say that. That's what I was going to say. I was like, what is the argument here?

Because this is what everything is. I don't think that— Speaker B: I guess the argument is it's not— we're not like buying the IP and remaking I. Joe into a movie. Speaker A: We're just doing it. Speaker B: Yeah. We're not going to have Donald Glover play Yoshi in the new Mario movie. We're just going to take everything and then change a little bit of it and boom, here you go. Speaker A: I think that's— look, I think that's fine, honestly. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I don't, I don't think I, I just don't know if they're— and I truly believe this— unless it's a, like, a personal story adapted from a novel, I don't know what— there's just not that much left out there, Jason.

The Rockies are tapped. Like, I just don't know what— I, I honestly, like, unless it's an incredible personal story, I'm not sure a guy in Studio City can sit down at his desk and type out something that will captivate millions of people. Speaker B: Yeah. We're not going to have Donald Glover play Yoshi in the new Mario movie. We're just going to take everything and then change a little bit of it and boom, here you go. Speaker A: I think that's— look, I think that's fine, honestly. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: I don't, I don't think I, I just don't know if they're— and I truly believe this— unless it's a, like, a personal story adapted from a novel, I don't know what— there's just not that much left out there, Jason.

The Rockies are tapped. Like, I just don't know what— I, I honestly, like, unless it's an incredible personal story, I'm not sure a guy in Studio City can sit down at his desk and type out something that will captivate millions of people. Speaker B: How many, how many more ways can a woman be left by her husband out of nowhere do we have left in us, you know? Speaker A: I mean, I really— I just don't think, like, I don't know. I think that's why everything feels like something else, because it sort of has to.

I don't know if we as a culture have the capacity now to digest new things if they're 3 hours long and challenging. Speaker B: We have— it's getting harder and harder to create new things in this world as time passes, but we can't give up, Chris. We gotta always try to make some new shit, you know what I mean? Speaker A: I agree. I wish more people would give up making movies but that's a different subject altogether. Speaker B: Actually, speaking of From Dusk Till Dawn, I think on the last episode or one before, I said the phrase chon chon, which was taken from Donut Baron Danny Trejo in From Dusk Till Dawn, where he asks, or I guess maybe he orders a woman to give him some chon chon.

Speaker B: Actually, speaking of From Dusk Till Dawn, I think on the last episode or one before, I said the phrase chon chon, which was taken from Donut Baron Danny Trejo in From Dusk Till Dawn, where he asks, or I guess maybe he orders a woman to give him some chon chon. Speaker A: I always forget that the— Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: Yeah, okay. Speaker B: I always forget that 48% on Metacritic. Speaker A: Really? I thought that movie was kind of a hit. Speaker B: 66 on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.2 IMDb.

Speaker A: I don't know why. I don't know why. It feels like one of those movies that I've never seen, obviously, but I've heard the title of it. I feel— I don't know. I just felt like maybe it's just— it's a great title, obviously. Speaker B: Of course. Speaker A: But it just feels like— it feels like something I've heard of a lot, but I guess it doesn't mean it's good. Speaker B: That is true. That's true. Speaker A: That's the problem with stuff. Speaker B: Um, can we talk about Lil Bow Wow?

Speaker A: Bob? Uh, yeah, I got guns the size of little Bow Wow, as they say. Speaker B: Um, so yeah, he's going viral. No red meat, no pork. Bow Wow says that's the reason why he still looks youthful at the age of 39, and he posts a photo of himself looking very unhealthy. He looks as if he's been, you know, poisoned or something like that. Speaker A: Looks like an ad. He looks like an ad for high cortisol. Like an Instagram ad. Like, like, he looks like— Speaker B: I'm all going through it is what you're saying.

Speaker A: He has beautiful eyes. I will say his eyes are amazing. Speaker B: And that's maybe menacing, menacing beautiful eyes. Speaker A: Maybe that's why he uses— also, I feel like that picture is extremely, uh, portrait mode. Like, it's really, really— Speaker B: I'm all going through it is what you're saying. Speaker A: He has beautiful eyes. I will say his eyes are amazing. Speaker B: And that's maybe menacing, menacing beautiful eyes. Speaker A: Maybe that's why he uses— also, I feel like that picture is extremely, uh, portrait mode.

Like, it's really, really— Speaker B: you know, there's a lot of blur. The background is blurred. He's— those piercing pit bull eyes are staring straight into your soul. But you're— you can do nothing but look at the inflated skull and discoloration of his overall existence. Speaker A: But I think Bow Wow looking— Speaker B: looking something wild. Speaker A: I think Bow, um, he looks like he ate some bad turkey or something. I swear to God, the bodega is usually good. I think, I think, I think he is trolling. Like, I think he knows exactly what he's doing, and he— I don't know if he thinks it's funny but I think he knows that this will elicit a response.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think— Speaker B: well, the, the best response I've seen is photos that he posted, Bow Wow posted on his own social media of him like eating cheeseburgers and fries and stuff like that. Like, so maybe it is a bold-faced lie and he's just trolling. Well, you know, whatever Bow Wow got to do. Speaker A: Who said that line though? So it's from Wanksta. Speaker B: Okay, you got guns the size of Lil Bow Wow. Speaker A: Yeah, we ride around with the guns the size of Lil Bow Wow.

Speaker B: Okay, you got guns the size of Lil Bow Wow. Speaker A: Yeah, we ride around with the guns the size of Lil Bow Wow. Speaker B: But also, if you're— if you have— it's a great— but if you, if you have Lil— yeah, in your name and you get older and you, and you release the, the press, the press release saying, hey guys, don't call me Lil Bow Wow anymore, I'm a big boy, you have to call me Bow Wow. Never do that. Never, ever, ever do that. No, people are going to call you— you know, imagine Lil Wayne doing that.

It just doesn't work. Speaker A: I was about to ask you, has— but I guess that he has the alternative Weezy or Weezy F Baby. Speaker B: Sure. Speaker A: If you're looking to feel more grown. Speaker B: Yeah. Speaker A: But you're right, he's never come out and been like, I'm no longer Lil, I'm Big. Speaker B: Oh yeah, I think— yeah, lose the Lil, it's cleaner. I think what you have to do is just simply start behaving as if, you know, calling yourself Wayne as an adult, whatever. Just, just, just— and don't, don't make an announcement that you're doing it.

Just do it. Don't talk about it. Be about it, as they say. Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's— you're right. Like, I'll follow your actions, not your words. Speaker B: That's right. But yeah. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: Peace goes to Lil Bow Wow. We are thinking of you. Don't come on the pod. Speaker A: Oh, no, no. Bow Wow. Anytime, baby. Speaker B: Oh, really? Speaker A: That's ATL royalty right there, man. That's like— that's Bow Wow. Is it not someone whose music I've ever listened to? But as a personality, I have a lot of respect for him.

Speaker A: Oh, no, no. Bow Wow. Anytime, baby. Speaker B: Oh, really? Speaker A: That's ATL royalty right there, man. That's like— that's Bow Wow. Is it not someone whose music I've ever listened to? But as a personality, I have a lot of respect for him. Speaker B: I'm trying to think. There's a Fresh Am I Is— is there? There's a Bow Wow song called Fresh As I'm Is. Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Speaker B: Fresh As I'm Is. Yeah. That's a good song. Speaker A: Amazing, amazing turn of phrase.

An unbelievable grip on the English language for a rapper. Speaker B: Ye ain't ridin', ye ain't bumpin' like I'm bumpin'. Ye ain't sayin' nothin', homie. Ye ain't fresh as I mean it. Speaker A: That song really does go though. That song's a banger. That song is a banger. Speaker B: Think ye is, but ye ain't. Think you get it crunk like me, but you can't. Speaker A: Ooh! That's— bro, that's ATL. Oh my goodness. I'm about to put on a fitted. I can't even— I can't help myself. I'm about to put on a— Speaker B: So So Def in the building.

Speaker A: I'm about to put on a fitted and walk down Bankhead looking for trouble. That's crazy. Uh, did you, did you DJ last night? Speaker B: No, I did not DJ last night. Speaker A: Oh, okay. For some reason I thought that I saw that party. Speaker B: You're a DJ? I'm DJing next weekend. Speaker A: Next weekend. Okay, my bad. Speaker B: Uh, March 20th at Rhonda, friend of the show, Tinashe, Zack Fox. It's a party for DJ Fifi, other friend of the show. Shout out Sophia. Um, and then I'll be at— before that I'll be— we're gonna be in Palm Springs.

We're driving back up Friday, going to Bar Di Bello, the restaurant in Silver Silver Lake that is doing a little friends and family opening. So gonna bop in there, you know, with my leather tank top on, you know, my club gear, and then walk across the street to Los Lobos. Speaker A: It's a, it's an old school them jeans Silver Lake night is what it sounds like to me. Speaker B: It is. But I was thinking about this earlier where like so many of my greatest nights are like, you know, we're going to the club, I'm DJing with a bunch of friends, we're gonna go get dinner before have a fun meal, crack some jokes, get a little buzz going, go to the club, have an unforgettable night.

But now the problem is this is a very— there's never— I've never done it to where it's like a very fancy restaurant, like the type of restaurant that I would wear, you know, sure, a nice, you know, the hundreds tee is at home. Speaker A: This is more of a suit. You're in your suit and tie shit now. Speaker B: Yeah, but I don't want to go into, you know, sweaty Ronda club. It's fucking 90 degrees in A. this week. Speaker A: Stop being a pussy, bro. Go Dave1 mode. Just do it.

I mean, I guess, but like, hold on, hold on, I got a lot of questions. Tinashe DJs? Speaker B: She— yeah, she's like in the EDM world now. She has this song, I forgot what it's like, No Broke Boys or something like that, with the— I don't know, there's like a mainstream, like, loser people EDM. Speaker A: Oh, it's like it's working for her? Speaker B: She— yeah, she got on and it's, you know, it's like club space, like TikToker basic people, Denver, Red Rocks, raver kind of, kind of vibe going on.

Speaker A: Big. Speaker B: Yeah, she's big. But I'm sure that she has like cooler, better taste in music, hopefully. But, you know, once you get around and start hanging out with them DJs and you see those little checks that they're getting for just standing there drinking fucking Clase Azul, I swear to God, for 45 minutes instead of having to like hire backup dancers and like buy airplane tickets for them and shit, you're like, like, maybe DJing sounds like a great idea. Speaker A: Big. Speaker B: Yeah, she's big. But I'm sure that she has like cooler, better taste in music, hopefully.

But, you know, once you get around and start hanging out with them DJs and you see those little checks that they're getting for just standing there drinking fucking Clase Azul, I swear to God, for 45 minutes instead of having to like hire backup dancers and like buy airplane tickets for them and shit, you're like, like, maybe DJing sounds like a great idea. Speaker A: No, we're gonna get that Tenashe Alex Warren soon. We're gonna get it. I swear, I'm putting it— I'm putting it into the universe. I just didn't— I didn't realize, honestly.

Speaker B: She just— she found a back door out of the Kia Asylum. Speaker A: Well, I was gonna say, she seems like one of the more famous members of the Asylum, but also beloved, kind of. Yeah, like, I don't— I feel like— I feel like it's sort of— yes, she's a member of the Asylum, a resident of the Asylum, but— but people want to see her win. Like, no one wants to see Bebe Rexha win. Speaker B: She got— I mean, I'm— she's turning on me a little bit, but I think BB might not even want to see herself win the way she's acting, which is one of the most endearing things a person can do, right?

Speaker A: It's true, it's true. Speaker B: It's cool. You— that's, that's when you really put your, your life on the line and, and become a true performance artiste. When all else fails, when, when every studio engineer stops replying to your text, talk stops replying to your WeChat messages, then you start doing some weird shit like that. Speaker A: You gotta do some weird shit. Uh, I also— I sent you this picture in the chat earlier this week of, uh, Heated Rivalries Hudson Williams leaving a party. And he— it's a real like Hollywood image of him sort of like in an outfit that was clearly— he was, you know, he wore for that night.

It was borrowed clothing. And he's sort of dramatically walking out of a party smoking a cigarette, and he's got— he's flanked by two women, and arm in arm. How would I say this? It's, it's women that you don't necessarily want to be flanked by. Um, and it, it, it, it's not— it's the least— it's like a photo that if it was different people, it'd be the most glamorous photo ever taken. But because it's him and these two women It's the least— it makes Hollywood look decrepit. It looks— it makes Hollywood look depressing.

And I, I just don't— I don't, I don't know what's going to happen to him. Speaker A: You gotta do some weird shit. Uh, I also— I sent you this picture in the chat earlier this week of, uh, Heated Rivalries Hudson Williams leaving a party. And he— it's a real like Hollywood image of him sort of like in an outfit that was clearly— he was, you know, he wore for that night. It was borrowed clothing. And he's sort of dramatically walking out of a party smoking a cigarette, and he's got— he's flanked by two women, and arm in arm.

How would I say this? It's, it's women that you don't necessarily want to be flanked by. Um, and it, it, it, it's not— it's the least— it's like a photo that if it was different people, it'd be the most glamorous photo ever taken. But because it's him and these two women It's the least— it makes Hollywood look decrepit. It looks— it makes Hollywood look depressing. And I, I just don't— I don't, I don't know what's going to happen to him. Speaker B: I don't feel— Speaker A: this feel— this felt like a real death knell for him where the other guys are on an upswing.

Speaker B: It is, it is giving knell. There's another photo of the same series where somebody was lighting his cigarette, you know, in his group or whatever, and he was a guy that was wearing like very dirty white New Balances. And I feel like somebody on his career trajectory, you gotta, you know, while you're being papped up by 100 people, you gotta say, you gotta say, hey guys, you, you, you, you get out of frame. Well, like, I got too much going on. Speaker A: I mean, he— Speaker B: I saw somebody on Twitter say that he, you know, despite looking cool and making, you know, mogging with a cig, he is also dressed like Kamala Harris.

You know, going to a dinner. Speaker A: I mean, he— Speaker B: I saw somebody on Twitter say that he, you know, despite looking cool and making, you know, mogging with a cig, he is also dressed like Kamala Harris. You know, going to a dinner. Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that. I saw it. Speaker B: He does. Speaker A: He's going cop mala with the fit. I just— Speaker B: but so, but the two women that are flanking him, they look, they look to be maybe a little bit older. Maybe they're in the biz and maybe they, you know, they're holding multiple cell phones in their hands.

So could these be women on his team? Speaker A: Very much so. But I just mean, when I'm thinking about like, there's pictures of Harry and Zoe Kravitz going into the after party of Saturday Night Live last night. Speaker B: Okay. Speaker A: And it is, they look amazing. The flashes are going off. They're dressed great. They look great. They're surrounded by a crowd. That is— there's— this can obviously look cool. It's something we're used to seeing that looks glamorous and cool. And I, I guess this photo proved how bad it can be, like how unsexy it can really feel.

And I don't know, you have to— yeah, somebody's got to step in if you're him. Speaker B: But also, if you are a member of his team, like if this is a manager and a PR or whatever, You should also know to stay back. Yeah, while this pap is happening, we're not walking arm in arm like I'm your new girlfriend. Speaker A: Also, yeah, that's not gonna— you're— dude, we know you're not gay, but you don't have to prove it this hard. Like, it's all— it's fine. But I think that— I think that also he's going out with almost the sole purpose of these particular photos being taken.

Like, this is kind of the whole point of the night. Speaker B: Well, and open bar too. Speaker A: Open bar, dude. Speaker B: We don't even have to pregame. It's already there. Speaker A: But I saw— I also saw something with Dochi leaving, you know, in a paparazzi situation, and she walked directly over to the crowd of people and signed one autograph for like a 50-year-old man. And people are like, hell no, he— she would— he— somebody paid that guy. There's a— Speaker B: there's an indiscreet plan. Speaker A: There's no way that a 50-year-old man likes Dochi enough to wait outside a hotel to get her autograph.

There's just no fucking way. Speaker B: Yeah, it's because the value of a Dochi autograph, I'm assuming Not, you know, maybe not worth the squeeze of that juice. Speaker A: I'm not sure who the Dochie autograph audience is. Who knows? Maybe there's an eBay marketplace that we're not fully aware of. But I did find it. I usually don't believe those kind of conspiracies, but this one I was like, you know what? That does sound fishy. Speaker B: I'm seeing some Dochie, you know, Dochie signed $112. All right. I mean, look, who really buys autographs nowadays?

Speaker A: Case. Speaker B: That's such a weird, bizarre money laundry market, isn't it? Speaker A: It's very weird, but there's a lot of people that do— like, there's always people waiting, even for, you know, even for lesser celebrities. But I think it's— of course, I feel like it must be a volume game. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker A: Like, it must be— you just do this all the time and you stack them up. But I also think there's a world where, like, if you get a record signed by a musician, that's worth more money than, like, a dochi fucking glossy headshot or whatever.

Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I— it makes sense for, like, you know, we're selling Jerry Garcia's guitar or like, you know, the Eagles fucking amp case or whatever. Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker A: Like, it must be— you just do this all the time and you stack them up. But I also think there's a world where, like, if you get a record signed by a musician, that's worth more money than, like, a dochi fucking glossy headshot or whatever. Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I— it makes sense for, like, you know, we're selling Jerry Garcia's guitar or like, you know, the Eagles fucking amp case or whatever.

Speaker A: Like Hard Rock Cafe. Speaker B: Because that makes sense because it's people who are like, oh, I'm a huge fan of the Eagles or whatever, this legend, you know, Led Zeppelin. I also can afford this, you know, $3 million autographed Les Paul or whatever it is. How many Dochi fans are like, I have an extra $500 laying around to buy an autographed microphone of hers? You know, it's It's like, it's, where's the market? Speaker A: It's a small, small market. It's exclusive as they say. Speaker B: So this today.

Yeah. Tomorrow, AKA today, we will be announcing the Just Like Heaven festival lineup. So, you know, pay attention there. Sneak peek teaser. There's a good chance Them Jeans will be DJing again this year. I can't say who else will be performing. Speaker A: I wondered what you were going to tease here and then I realized he's teasing himself. Himself. He can't really— he can't let the, the cat out of the bag so easily. Speaker B: But there's been some other teas. They, they posted a little video yesterday of the crowd and, you know, like getting ready, and then the song that was on the Instagram post was, was My Moon, My Man by Your Girl Feist.

Speaker B: But there's been some other teas. They, they posted a little video yesterday of the crowd and, you know, like getting ready, and then the song that was on the Instagram post was, was My Moon, My Man by Your Girl Feist. Speaker A: So, you know, look, I've, I've seen— Speaker B: could be an Easter egg. Speaker A: I've seen this lineup and it is very good. I would say one of the more criss-coded lineups I've ever seen at a festival, which obviously makes me happy. Speaker B: It's making me very happy because the headlining band, it was also playing a different festival concert that my wife wanted me to get tickets for.

So this is, I don't have to go to that other one now. I can just go to this and I also get paid. Speaker A: So you can go to the one you're getting paid for. Yeah. What are the dates? What are the dates on Just Like Heaven? Speaker B: It's August 22nd. Speaker A: August 22nd. Speaker B: August 22nd. But yeah, great lineup. Maybe, maybe their best yet. Good little mix of, of of classic stuff and some new stuff as well. Some friends of the show, some bands that have been on this pod before.

Very excited. Hopefully we'll get the headliner on this pod and really have a— I guess members of that band have appeared on this pod already. Speaker A: I think that the— but yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'll be there and I know you'll be there. Um, thank you, uh, for listening. com is the website. We're back back next week with some good pods. Speaker B: Two, two of our favorite ladies in Los Angeles are on the pod. Speaker A: I'll tell you what, I tell you what, we're— yeah, this is, this is an unprecedented run of women.

Speaker B: Two, two of our favorite ladies in Los Angeles are on the pod. Speaker A: I'll tell you what, I tell you what, we're— yeah, this is, this is an unprecedented run of women. Speaker B: I ran, I ran into somebody that's on our guests, our first guests of the week's team, um, at L&E Oyster last night. Was over there with Carolyn and Al and, uh, Jeff Henny as well. Wow, nice little little Saturday night martini dinner. Speaker A: I'd love to see Henny and Al together. I feel like they'd bring out the best in each other.

Speaker B: Yeah, they like each other a lot. Speaker A: Okay, I assumed. Speaker B: But yeah, they already, they're friends. They know each other. Speaker A: From years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't witnessed it, I guess is what I'm saying. Speaker B: But yeah, that's it, bro. Speaker A: What did they say? What did they say? Speaker B: Oh, they were just like, oh my God, she's so excited. She can't wait to pod and I can't wait to pod either. I don't know what to talk to her about, but I think we just key, right?

Yeah. Speaker A: Yeah, she's— yeah, they're not— the— she's able to key from all accounts. Speaker B: I'm key certified. Speaker A: When you have that many active businesses, you probably have something to talk— you know, you probably got something you want to talk about a little bit, I would guess. Speaker B: I'm going to play it like Rachel— how I play Rachel Zoe. Speaker A: I mean, there's a reason for that, and I will play it the same. Thank you guys for listening. com, and we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker B: Au revoir. Speaker A: Riding, bumping like I'm bumping. Speaker B: You ain't saying nothing, homie. You ain't fresh as I'm— you ain't got it, you ain't got it. You don't keep it thuggy like I keep it thuggy, little buddy. Speaker B: Au revoir. Speaker A: Riding, bumping like I'm bumping. Speaker B: You ain't saying nothing, homie. You ain't fresh as I'm— you ain't got it, you ain't got it. You don't keep it thuggy like I keep it thuggy, little buddy. Speaker A: You ain't fresh as I'm— you ain't big, big whipping.

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