942. - Chris & Jason

Speaker A: All right, uh, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it 3 times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? Speaker B: We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

Speaker A: All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube. Hello and welcome to How Long Gone. Beautiful Mother's Day Sunday here in Atlanta. It's 72 and sunny. The birds are chirping. Everybody's getting out of church. You know, Chick-fil-A is closed. Everything's right with the world down here. Speaker B: Chick-fil-A is closed, but Raising Cane's free, free two-piece today. Speaker A: Oh, is that true? Speaker B: I just saw it on Twitter. The AI-generated image looked like it might not be real, but my question— I don't know if it was PooCrave or PopCrave.

Okay, sure, sure. Speaker A: But what do we— what do— how do you prove? Because, because in Atlanta, Um, I don't know how to say this. Speaker B: There might be some, you know, don't get into I ain't the daddy, I ain't the mama shit in the first episode. Speaker A: But what do we— what do— how do you prove? Because, because in Atlanta, Um, I don't know how to say this. Speaker B: There might be some, you know, don't get into I ain't the daddy, I ain't the mama shit in the first episode.

Speaker A: How do you prove, how do you prove that you're a mom? Speaker B: How do you prove that you're— you got to show the C-section scar. Speaker A: All right, pull it up. Let's see it. All right, two-piece for you, two-piece for you, your little friend. Speaker B: Oh, natural birth? That ain't natural. Speaker A: Raising Cane's ain't giving a two-piece to a natural birth. There ain't no way. Speaker B: Does Raising Cane's offer free 2-piece meal today for Mother's Day? Come on, bitch. Speaker A: You're saying it's a meal?

So you're saying you get some sides too? It ain't just a— Speaker B: Raising Cane's only has one meal. Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know. I've never been inside of one. What is it? Speaker B: It's chicken, crinkle-cut fries, and then if you want some bread on the little Texas toast on the side, you can get it. Speaker A: Okay, so, but you can differ on the amount of strips that you get. Speaker B: I think so. Let me see here. Speaker A: Okay. Speaker B: Raising Cane's Caneat Club Mother's Day BOGO.

One free box combo with the purchase of another box combo. All right. Speaker A: So you're all right. So your baby daddy got to buy one and then you get one free. Speaker B: Yeah. But you also have to be a registered card-carrying member of the Caneat Club to redeem this value. Speaker A: So. Okay. Speaker B: So this is obviously a— yeah, this is a sign up. They're trying to get your data. Speaker A: They're getting your fucking email address on Mother's Day. Speaker B: Mama want the data. Give me the data.

All right. What's the last 4 of your social? I'll give you an extra piece of bread. Speaker A: So. Okay. Speaker B: So this is obviously a— yeah, this is a sign up. They're trying to get your data. Speaker A: They're getting your fucking email address on Mother's Day. Speaker B: Mama want the data. Give me the data. All right. What's the last 4 of your social? I'll give you an extra piece of bread. Speaker A: Okay. So you get, you get a free Texas toast if you, if you give them your social.

That's a nice deal over there at Raising Cane's. I didn't, okay. I didn't realize Raising Cane's. Speaker B: So I mean, obviously it's a, it's, this is sort of a religious affront on the Chick-fil-A, you know, observing Sundays off for, for the good Lord. Raising Cane's said it's Sunday. Mama got to eat. Mama, mom comes before God if you ask me. Speaker A: But this feels like a day for Cookout or Ryan's Steakhouse or, you know, something a little more downmarket, I would say, because Cane's You said Ryan's Steakhouse? Raising Cane's.

Speaker B: I don't know about who Ryan. Speaker A: Ryan's, you don't, you don't need Ryan's. Ryan's Steakhouse is a place we used to go to after church occasionally. Speaker B: It was income tax hit. I go into Ryan's Steakhouse. I say, bring me Ryan. Speaker A: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a buffet style restaurant, but the highlight is a soft serve machine that you're able to operate, operate on your, on your kind of feels like a little bit of a soup plantation. Speaker B: Of the South. Oddly enough, the most plantation part of the country.

Speaker A: I've never been to Soot Plantation either, but I imagine that it's a feeding trough and then you have the soft serve machine. Speaker B: I'll never forget the last, first and last time I went to the one in Gatwater Village way back in the day and I saw this family and they had this little fat kid and the kid took his little fountain drink cup, dumped out his Coca-Cola. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. And he filled the whole thing up. He was looking back at his parents who were just like not even paying attention to him and I looked at him and I was like, do it, fatty.

He's probably not alive anymore. Speaker B: Of the South. Oddly enough, the most plantation part of the country. Speaker A: I've never been to Soot Plantation either, but I imagine that it's a feeding trough and then you have the soft serve machine. Speaker B: I'll never forget the last, first and last time I went to the one in Gatwater Village way back in the day and I saw this family and they had this little fat kid and the kid took his little fountain drink cup, dumped out his Coca-Cola. Hell no.

Hell no. Hell no. And he filled the whole thing up. He was looking back at his parents who were just like not even paying attention to him and I looked at him and I was like, do it, fatty. He's probably not alive anymore. Speaker A: He filled up the— he filled up the whole cup. Speaker B: He filled up the whole, like, you know, 24-ounce— Speaker A: wow— Speaker B: Big Gulp cup with the soft serve. Just kept on coming out. Speaker A: He was— Speaker B: he was so happy.

Speaker A: He wasn't even stoned. That's crazy. Speaker B: I, um, we don't know that. Speaker A: I guess we can't prove that. Yeah, we can't prove that. Um, but yeah, happy Mother's Day to all of our listeners out there. Um, and, uh, you know, we'll be celebrating, of course, tonight with with my mom at famed Decatur institution Athens Pizza, which is a— Speaker B: AP, Audemars. Speaker A: —a Black family classic. Well, we got to get into the Audemars because I was talking to Mike Nouveau and he said— Mike Nouveau said broke boys are eating with this Swatch collab.

He said, finally, you can afford an AP, is what he said to me actually. He's firing shots. I come to him head bowed asking for information about this collaboration I'm seeing all over Twitter. And Mike Nouveau pulls out his 9mm, hits me in the fucking left leg and the right leg. Like, bro, come on, I'm just asking questions, bro. I came to the boss. Speaker B: Yeah, come on, Mike, we're trying to work with you, not against you. And sending shots like that, you don't want it, bro. You don't want it.

Speaker B: Yeah, come on, Mike, we're trying to work with you, not against you. And sending shots like that, you don't want it, bro. You don't want it. Speaker A: I— but I said to— I mean, look, this is a good opportunity for you, a guy who can enjoy your little AP. Speaker B: No hoes. A guy, you— Speaker A: they got hoes in Geneva, just watches. Um, all right, so it looks like— it looks like you, who, who famously claims that you can kind of wear anything and pull it off and you've done it successfully with Yeezys and a Kurt Cobain Supreme shirt so far.

I'm thinking, I'm thinking maybe I'm going to have to dip, dip into my savings and it's time to spend $300 on the pink AP Swatch for TJ. And we're going to, it's going to be chaining day over in Glendale. We're going to see how far you get with this, with this big boy on your wrist. Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I need to look at the colors on offer. We've got, we've got lemon, orange, pink flamingo. Lime, Electric Blue, Black, and Cloud White. This is a tough one. Are you thinking pink?

Pink seems a little too on the nose. I have to go the road less traveled, and I think it's going to be Limelight, which is sort of like— Speaker A: I like that you think you have a choice in this. I'm the buyer, bitch. Speaker B: I'm buying this shit. Also, Chris, Chris, one thing to know, like any Swatch, the band and the face are interchangeable. Interchangeable. Yeah. So, okay. It's, it's all, it's a combo game at this point. Speaker A: Okay, so if we're doing something real sick, we get the X Swatch and put the AP, AP strap, AP pink straps on it.

Speaker A: Okay, so if we're doing something real sick, we get the X Swatch and put the AP, AP strap, AP pink straps on it. Speaker B: Oh my God, at this point I'm just about to get, I'm gonna get real actual AP straps. That's nice. The Royal Oak on the X Swatch. That's nice. Speaker A: X Swatch, step your little edge money up. Bridge 9 message board ain't ready for Jason pulling up with the Swatch, the X Swatch AP combo. Speaker B: Yeah, they're more into ARs than APs over there.

Speaker A: This is big because the— it seems like the watch community is upset about this, you know what I mean? But I think that obviously for a brand that is Audemars, which is— Speaker B: let them get upset. Speaker A: They're playing in the 0.00001% of people that are purchasing, you know, APs new, let's say. I think this, as a— you know, not to put my Orin hat on, but this does feel like a smart exercise in brand for both Swatch and AP. And I don't think that— I don't think this will negatively affect sales of $100,000 watches at all.

Speaker B: I don't think so either. The diffusion line typically just makes the real brand even more aspirational. Speaker A: Mike Nouveau said this is worse than H&M Margiela when Misshapes was popping. Speaker B: Damn! He's got a point. Speaker A: He's got a point. But I'm interested to see what actually— what actually happens with it, because I think that it feels pretty like it just feels smart to me. I don't know. As a person who hates G-Shock, this feels like a better option. You know, this feels like a better option if that's where you want to play.

It is a better option. For all also, I mean, can you imagine the guys going crazy right now that have Cause Home Furnishings? Can you imagine what David Cho is doing right now? Speaker B: Oh my God. Yeah, he's got, he's got every color added to cart because, you know, and it also really the interchangeability of the Swatch. This is— Speaker A: Oh, you have to buy them all. Speaker B: You're introducing a Swatch to a whole new market because more people nowadays are familiar with the Audemars than the Swatch nowadays, just because of, you know, whatever Destroy Lonely is rapping about while he's wearing a leather diaper.

So, like, nobody's rapping about Swatches. Swatches haven't been popular since we were in diapers. So, yeah, this is, this is good for the Swatch world, good for the AP world. And that interchangeability, you know, right now I was talking to somebody last night who at a wedding I DJ'd, New York Times reporter, and he was talking about how he made a documentary about Legos, people that are like professional Lego makers. Back in college. And I was like, oh, you were so before your time. Because I feel like nowadays every parent I know, you know, every autistic parent I know, their kid is like a Lego fucking— you know, they have a room in their house just for Legos.

Speaker A: Bro, you can get the— you can get the Mies van der Rohe— like, you can get the, the real ones, you know what I mean? It's, it's a— Speaker B: so, so all, you know, that autistic— I want to build things and create custom one-offs and color mixing and, you know, this goes on this and I'm going to represent myself. It's a great time to get that creativity flowing and get your unique piece flowing at an affordable price. Speaker A: Okay. So if anybody, if anybody from AP or Swatch is listening, please send me a link to purchase.

I'll pay full price. And Jason is contractually obligated to post on stories and grid. Speaker A: Okay. So if anybody, if anybody from AP or Swatch is listening, please send me a link to purchase. I'll pay full price. And Jason is contractually obligated to post on stories and grid. Speaker B: So I just, sorry, I don't like this deal. You got to pay and I got to post. Speaker A: I got to pay. You got to post. This is, this is what you have to do. You kind of have to invest in yourself.

You know what I mean? Speaker B: As a content creator like Oren, you got to pay to play. You got to invest in yourself. Exactly. Speaker A: I show speed when it comes to buying this watch for you. Speaker B: This Rivian is a write-off, bro. Speaker A: It's a business expense because I'm going to review it. I'm doing this for— I'm doing this for you, bro. This is Car and Driver. Uh, yeah, I, I was, I was taken aback by that. All right, so congratulations to Emily and David, the couple that got married last night.

Um, and I was hoping— I wanted to move this podcast up a little bit so that I would get the prime hungover. I wanted a 10 AM, but I wasn't going to push— Speaker B: you want a big bro with one eye open still? Speaker A: Yeah, with one eye open. Speaker B: I could have done it, to be honest. I could have, I could have done it. I should have done it, to be honest. I'm sorry about that. No, I thought you were busy. Speaker A: No, I didn't know your little crisp brunch.

I didn't offer. I didn't, I didn't push it because I, I thought it would be disrespectful. But you're saying you were up and at 'em and you had already had a mimosa and a Miller Lite? Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, this, this hoochie daddy been up. I got two yoga mats, moved into my room at the Nine Orchard. I'm, I was trying out these push-ups where you, every time you go down, you spread your your arms like Jesus on the cross, and then you go back and do another push-up. Have you seen this?

Speaker A: Uh, you spread them out like your chest is touching, you spread your arms out, you bring them back. Speaker B: Yeah, you do, you do, you, you go all the way down, chest on the floor, and then you spread your arms out completely without lifting your chest up. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. You know, whatever mobility shit. And then you go back and then do a push-up. And I saw these guys doing it on my phone, and I was like, I'm gonna give it a feel. I did I feel good.

I feel pretty good. I did, I did 16 and then I stopped. Speaker A: Uh, you spread them out like your chest is touching, you spread your arms out, you bring them back. Speaker B: Yeah, you do, you do, you, you go all the way down, chest on the floor, and then you spread your arms out completely without lifting your chest up. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. You know, whatever mobility shit. And then you go back and then do a push-up. And I saw these guys doing it on my phone, and I was like, I'm gonna give it a feel.

I did I feel good. I feel pretty good. I did, I did 16 and then I stopped. Speaker A: Yeah, I did something fucked up today that I, I wish I wouldn't have done. I, I felt compelled to do a track workout because I'm next to, you know, I'm pretty close to a high school. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go do, I'm gonna go do a little track workout. Got my little, got my little program. I was like, yeah, this will be, you know, something light. 72 degrees outside is beautiful.

And, um, I am, I'm feeling it. Let me say that. What is a track workout? I mean, you warm up, you do like 2 laps, and then you do some leg swings and like high knees and shit on the football field, and then you hit the run at a quote-unquote comfortably hard pace for 6 laps, and you do 4 200-meter sprints, and then you finish with like an easy jog mile. I mean, it was fun, but I was out on a track alone. Speaker B: Coochie blaster over there. Speaker A: Yeah, I was on the track alone, and it was, you know, besides a couple of fatties playing softball.

It was, that was kind of it. Speaker B: With the Joe Budden podcast, you're never really alone though, Chris. Speaker A: That actually, I listen to, I have to listen to music when I run. Listening to a podcast when you run, unless you're doing something long, feels very weird to me. It feels very, I don't know. A lot of people do it. I know. Speaker B: With the Joe Budden podcast, you're never really alone though, Chris. Speaker A: That actually, I listen to, I have to listen to music when I run.

Listening to a podcast when you run, unless you're doing something long, feels very weird to me. It feels very, I don't know. A lot of people do it. I know. Speaker B: It's sort of, you have to, it's for those people who, you know, it's all about the notes you don't play. You know what I mean? It's for people who can't just play the regular, I'm just going to run and listen to, you know, You know, if you can't, if you can't run and listen to early Fall Out Boy by Taylor Swift's favorite lyricist, then I don't really know what you're doing.

Speaker A: You know, like what's, what's the point of hitting the track really? Speaker B: I need some more, you know, cause running, it's not like jazz. It's, it's a lot like Fall Out Boy, right? And they're common time signatures. Speaker A: If you think about it. I mean, I think the issue, I think the issue with running is that, and music is that it does, if you're like, my head's telling me that it'll spike your, you know, if a song comes on, it's super upbeat and you like it. It's hard.

It'll, it'll change your pace a little bit. If you're not a pro. Speaker B: It makes the little carrot getting dangled in front of you look a little more yummy. Speaker A: But I'm going on this, I'm going on another Satisfye trip to Arizona on Thursday. And I don't know what we're, I don't know what we're going to do. Speaker B: I know what you're going to do. I saw the brief. You're going to do 250 miles. Speaker A: And so yeah, dude, I saw, I saw, I started following the Cocodona, the 250-mile race Instagram, and the last finisher was one, I almost started crying.

Guy was probably my dad's age. Everybody was there screaming for him. Two guys having to basically carry him over the line. It was, it was beautiful. I'm gonna cry. I've been to cry. Speaker B: Honestly, it was beautiful. He's no longer with us. Speaker A: Yeah, he did pass. I've never been to Arizona though, so I'm pretty— Speaker B: I'm excited that way, ho. Never been. Welcome to Arizona, duck bitch. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by our best friends at BetterHelp. Jason, we're, we're deep into May, which is, uh, Mental Health Awareness Month.

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Find support and have somebody with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at com/howlong. That is com/howlong. Speaker A: This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's, uh, it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. Speaker B: A lot of questions. But how often?

Because we do this podcast 3 times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Speaker A: 3 times a week. And I, I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. Speaker B: That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Speaker A: Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside.

But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch on YouTube. It's 3 times a week. And who couldn't use more news, you know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. I know it does feel like a place where you— like, jail is outside, you know what I mean? But, but, but other than— Speaker B: like, like the airport in Hawaii. Yeah, yeah. Speaker A: But other than that, I'm looking forward to— I don't plan to get arrested in Tucson.

Speaker B: The jail in Arizona, they have misters in the summer. It's actually kind of nice. Speaker A: But I just feel like— yeah, I just feel like it's something— hopefully I'm not sleeping on a cot. But other than that, I'm looking forward to it. Speaker B: You said you're in Tucson? Speaker A: Sedona, fly to Phoenix, then I think the event, the event that we're doing is in Tucson. Yeah. And I mean, Arizona for whatever reason is like a very, a big hotbed for like long distance running culture. I guess I would assume, I would assume because of the, the, um, because Arizona is a literal hotbed, the weather is probably pretty good year round.

I would assume, I guess that's why athletes live there. Speaker A: But I just feel like— yeah, I just feel like it's something— hopefully I'm not sleeping on a cot. But other than that, I'm looking forward to it. Speaker B: You said you're in Tucson? Speaker A: Sedona, fly to Phoenix, then I think the event, the event that we're doing is in Tucson. Yeah. And I mean, Arizona for whatever reason is like a very, a big hotbed for like long distance running culture. I guess I would assume, I would assume because of the, the, um, because Arizona is a literal hotbed, the weather is probably pretty good year round.

I would assume, I guess that's why athletes live there. Speaker B: Consider the altitude play as well. Yeah. Speaker A: No, that's, I think that's a big part of it too. I think it's a big part of it too. Um, but all right. So, so you're, you're feeling fine. Yeah, how late did you stay up? Speaker B: No, not feeling fine, not feeling fine. I stayed up, uh, probably until 2, probably till 2, but I started drinking at like 8. Speaker A: Did you get into the packet at all, or was this all natural?

Speaker B: This is all natural. This is Nattee. I, I developed some allergy-related sinus issues in the last few days just with all the international travel, late nights, butter and wine consumption, lack of lack of everything that I need to ground myself. Lack of everything. Just a general lack of everything. Yeah. The nasal passages. There was a road closure. Traffic was being diverted to other holes. Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one thing that'll clear a hole right up. Couple bumps, knock it right out of there.

Speaker B: Put a little water in the nose. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I do have the, an aloe nasal saline rinse that I got from the, the, the DR. That's Dwayne Reed, not Dominican Republic. Speaker A: Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you one thing that'll clear a hole right up. Couple bumps, knock it right out of there. Speaker B: Put a little water in the nose. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have, I do have the, an aloe nasal saline rinse that I got from the, the, the DR.

That's Dwayne Reed, not Dominican Republic. Speaker A: You're saying Aloe, the yoga brand, is making— oh, I didn't know that. Speaker B: No, it's Aloe with an E, bro. Speaker A: Aloe vera. Oh, you put aloe vera in your nose, bro? Speaker B: Yeah, it's a nasal spray because your nose— Speaker A: I never heard of that. Now I never heard of that. Speaker B: Now the nasal, you know, you've had a saline rinse in the nose surely, but you know I gotta keep my, um, all my sinuses wet, dripping, you know what I mean?

I gotta keep my sinuses on Aquafina. Speaker A: Okay, so it's, so it's feeling better or worse? Speaker B: But although, but I did hear, um, other people last night were mentioning that they had cocaine that they believe was made out of ground-up angel wings is how good it was. Speaker A: Wow. Uh, I've never heard that used as a descriptor. It was the pack. They procured it or they, they were there? Speaker B: They procured it. It was sourced. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Speaker A: I mean, I believe it's crazy to me that you as a nightlife DJ, when you heard that, you, your sinuses aside, you couldn't resist taking a little nummy or something.

Speaker B: Well, the problem with I don't know. DJing on coke is not good for me because when I, when I DJ, it's like my ADD stim out kind of, you know, you've made fun of me for tapping that cue button. Speaker A: I mean, I believe it's crazy to me that you as a nightlife DJ, when you heard that, you, your sinuses aside, you couldn't resist taking a little nummy or something. Speaker B: Well, the problem with I don't know. DJing on coke is not good for me because when I, when I DJ, it's like my ADD stim out kind of, you know, you've made fun of me for tapping that cue button.

Speaker A: I don't make fun. No, I'm not making fun of you. That is a signature move that I like. I'm not making, I'm not making fun. Speaker B: I want to be very clear. Okay. Sorry. I'm projecting. You're right. You're right. I'm projecting. And Carolyn will often like to mimic my cue tapping as well. Like, oh, DJing so hard. Speaker A: Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Okay. All right. Well, next time she needs a package picked up, you're busy. How about that? How about that? How about that?

Oops, I was so busy tapping my button I didn't hear the doorbell. Speaker B: Yeah, some, some guy came from knocking on the doors from WorldNet or something like that, but I was in the sauna, so I told him to cruise back later. I didn't really know. Um, yeah, so, so basically cocaine with the DJing, I end up getting too in my head. I get like too flustered, and I, you know, I'm more basically, I'm already kind of up on the decks because I need to kind of come down. Speaker A: You're flying from the high of performing for a rapt audience there.

Speaker B: Well, there is that, but also like, I'm not the kind of person, you know, I'm not the Ricardo Villalobos type of person where you just put on a 12-minute song and then you just have a conversation with your friend, dance around, have a cigarette. You know, I'm, I'm thinking about what song am I going to play after the song that's going to play after the song. You know, I'm, I'm I'm getting this, I'm testing out, do these songs sound good? Was it a turn up? Speaker B: Well, there is that, but also like, I'm not the kind of person, you know, I'm not the Ricardo Villalobos type of person where you just put on a 12-minute song and then you just have a conversation with your friend, dance around, have a cigarette.

You know, I'm, I'm thinking about what song am I going to play after the song that's going to play after the song. You know, I'm, I'm I'm getting this, I'm testing out, do these songs sound good? Was it a turn up? Speaker A: Was it in turn up environment last night? It was a turn up environment. Speaker B: It went, it went from, you know, it had a good pace to it. Um, the wedding had some kind of Soviet homies. There was a little, yeah, there was a little Soviet contingency with some of the, some of the elders.

David's family, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker A: So did you, so did you play some, did you get into your Soviet classics bag? I did. Speaker B: He sent over a handful of tracks and I had the hardest time because he sent over Spotify links and they're all in Russian or Ukrainian or some Soviet language of some sort. So, you know, we got the cute, the Toys R Us backwards R, you know, we got all kinds of unique symbols that, you know, want the yen dollar sign is in there. Speaker A: Yeah.

Yeah. It's, it's letters that don't belong together. Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So the funny part was I literally had to, I couldn't copy and paste text from Spotify into like the search bar to find these songs to download them. And I also don't have the keyboard or the ability to type each of these letters out. Speaker A: Bro, I told you, I gave you back the Russian laptop that you let me borrow. I gave it back. I gave you back the Russian MacBook. Speaker A: Bro, I told you, I gave you back the Russian laptop that you let me borrow.

I gave it back. I gave you back the Russian MacBook. Speaker B: Russian laptop sounds like a good name, like a mysterious Drake song name. Speaker A: Yeah. Russian laptop. 3 AM in Russia. Speaker B: Speaking of Drake, when I mentioned that Drake should have called his album Stick Season or another rapper, the Noah Noah Caan album, and I did find out what stick season means. It's the season in between autumn and winter where, drum roll, there's a bunch of sticks. Speaker A: Uh, he brings up sticks a lot. We're gonna get into that.

Uh, but okay, so you had to, you had to get on, but I thought all your— Speaker B: so basically what I had to do, you know, it seems like an easy thing to do, you just copy and paste, but like Spotify doesn't let you copy and paste the song title or the artist name. You can copy and paste the release date, the track length, you know, just like dumb facts or whatever. But you can't copy— if it just says The Beatles, I can't select that and paste it. If you drag it, it sends a URL.

The URL doesn't have any info. So I had to literally screenshot each track on Spotify, copy and paste it, and slide it into ChatGPT for it to translate into English so I could Google these songs. Speaker A: Well, here's the— but here's the problem I'm having, because I thought, I thought famously all of your stolen music was from Russian websites. Speaker B: Funny you bring that up because normally when I get a playlist of like, here's the wedding songs, I'm like, all right, 50 Cent, Best Friend, you know, Spice Girls, this, whatever it is, I go and, you know, I'll go and download it.

I'll try to find it on Soulseek or whatever. And, you know, if I can't, then I'll rip the MP3 or whatever. But all these songs You type it into Google and it just brings up a Russian website that has a button that says download and get the perfect 3:24. Like Russian people, they're like, bro, we, we don't share files. We, we, we don't sell files. We give them, we bless you with the files. Speaker B: Funny you bring that up because normally when I get a playlist of like, here's the wedding songs, I'm like, all right, 50 Cent, Best Friend, you know, Spice Girls, this, whatever it is, I go and, you know, I'll go and download it.

I'll try to find it on Soulseek or whatever. And, you know, if I can't, then I'll rip the MP3 or whatever. But all these songs You type it into Google and it just brings up a Russian website that has a button that says download and get the perfect 3:24. Like Russian people, they're like, bro, we, we don't share files. We, we, we don't sell files. We give them, we bless you with the files. Speaker A: Damn. It's like vodka. That's amazing. Speaker B: Because there's no rule there. They're like, they have so much going on over there that they're like, we don't, we don't care about somebody pirating MP3 files.

What the fuck are you talking about? MP3 files are like property of, of society. Yeah, we don't— it's not something you could sell. Now, is— Speaker A: okay, so would you play this? I imagine the old heads went fucking crazy. Speaker B: They were going crazy. They were liking it. There was— and that's— I was telling, I was telling Emily and David this, this is my favorite part about DJing a wedding is the ethnic dance music section. Yeah, of course. It makes my life easier and it's a win-win for everybody.

So for me, I get to play like 8 songs I've never heard in my entire life, don't know how to play them. So it's fun trying to figure out how to mix them into each other. And everyone, all the old heads in the crowd are like, "Respect, thank you so much for playing the music of my people. I'm gonna show out, I'm gonna do all the cool dances, I'm gonna have a cigar in my hand, I'm gonna turn up like a boss," you know. Take the jacket off, got the suspenders.

I'm, I'm geeked out. And then all the, you know, regular people our age who have never heard Ukrainian Eurodance classics from 1991, they're all like, oh, this music is different and fun. So like, I'll play a Persian wedding, I'll play Armenian wedding, I'll play a Russian wedding. Speaker A: It's a win-win for everybody. Speaker B: And the whole club is just like, this music is fucking sick and turnt up. So everyone just rages. That's great. It's win-win-win-win-win. And then also that eats up You know, when you DJ a wedding, sometimes you gotta DJ 4 or 5 hours.

So that little rock block of, you know, communist trap music, that eats up a good, you know, 20% of your, of your time. Speaker A: I'd rather play communist trap music than, you know, Arcade Fire or whatever, you know what I mean? If it's a gun to my head, that sounds pretty good to me. That's great. Speaker B: But, um, and on that note of, of eating up that whole 5 hours, because, you know, it can be it can be tough to get because the crowds at a wedding, it's not just like a nightclub where it's just like we're going to party all night.

There's, there's hills and valleys and, you know, we're coming down now, the pizza's coming out, we take a break, you know, we're doing the cake cutting. You lose and bring the dance floor back many times throughout the night. And it can be a little, a little scary at first if you, if you haven't done it. And I was thinking about that, you know, that Mike Tyson quote, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the nose. That's right. Yeah, it's, it's very, very similar to DJing. Doing a wedding, like, because every, every time the, the bride and groom will send over their playlist and it's like, these are the songs that we love and, you know, define us as a couple.

And, you know, he proposed to me in Antigua to this one. And, you know, I got bit by a spider in the Maldives and that, you know, this reminds me of that fucking— you can't really play all of those songs because like nobody else has a connection to it. So yeah, you just gotta play Robin again. You could send over that Lou Reed track But I Got Better Off Alone is, you know, on the back burner. It's just going to come out, you know. Speaker A: I see what you're saying.

I see. Speaker B: Because everyone's drunk and getting silly, you know, it's— I kind of like it. Speaker A: Yeah, I think so too. I think it's fun. Well, that sounds— so you did you go out after the wedding or were you done at the wedding? You went back to the— No. Speaker B: Okay. I was going to go to Public Record. Friend of the show, Louise Chen, and from Chen, was DJing there with this girl Moxie. Speaker A: One of the greats. One of the greats. Speaker B: But I was just, you know, I was beat, man.

Just fucking beat. Just, you know, standing in the same place for a lot of hours and drinking martinis, it'll take it out of you. So I just went back to the crib, passed out. Didn't even have any— didn't even have a 3 AM bodega sandwich. Kind of proud of myself. That's— that is— Speaker A: I'm proud of you too. That's like, I mean, 3 is late, but sometimes you got to do it, bro. Sometimes if you— Speaker B: because I didn't really have dinner. There's some— there's some chicken breasts I ate at the wedding.

It was delish. But You know, I didn't want to fill up on the platter before I'm about to bust it down, but I woke up and I ordered my Juice Vitality delivery. Loving the Juice Vitality. Do you order from there? Speaker A: I don't even know what that is. Speaker B: Just some shit I seen on Caviar, but they got everything you need. They got all the smoothies, the fresh juices, the cold brews. Speaker A: Where is it located? Like, do you know where it is located? Speaker B: The lobby of my hotel.

I don't fucking know. A man bring it to me on the bike. I have no idea, but it can't be that far from me. You know, it's— Yeah, of course. You should be in the delivery zone on Caviar. Speaker A: But actually, though, that's the fucked up thing about all this is that it's a little bit like they'll deliver anything anywhere now. The rules are all really— it's not like it used to be. Speaker B: The lobby of my hotel. I don't fucking know. A man bring it to me on the bike.

I have no idea, but it can't be that far from me. You know, it's— Yeah, of course. You should be in the delivery zone on Caviar. Speaker A: But actually, though, that's the fucked up thing about all this is that it's a little bit like they'll deliver anything anywhere now. The rules are all really— it's not like it used to be. Speaker B: So it's kind of like this is what it's going to be if somebody wants to take like an Uber driver. Like, if you want this ride, you can get it if you want.

Speaker A: Yeah. If you want to pay, if you want to pay for it and you want to wait, like, okay, good, good for you. We're down. Speaker B: You want to pay $470 to bring this Katz's Deli to, you know, somewhere in Delaware. Somebody will be like, yeah, I'll do that. Speaker A: That's like, yeah. Speaker B: Actually, no, I saw that there's this, sorry for interrupting. There's like a TaskRabbit style app that I saw an ad for, an advert for in London. And it was basically, it's kind of like a TaskRabbit, but it's like a bulletin board thing where you post a job and how much you're willing to pay.

Yeah. And then, you know, people who are sort of on the brink of suicide are able to accept that offer and then And the example that they were using was somebody was offering 20 quid to come pick up the dog shit in my backyard and mow the grass. So like, you think, so I'm wondering like, these are people who are like— Speaker A: Don't let me near that. Do not let me near that. Wow, that's crazy. Speaker B: Because these are people, I mean, which is so cool. And I wonder, and it has like a little like kind of gambling economy energy to it.

Definitely. I mean, I'll do it for $23, and you're like, $21.50. Yeah, that's what I can do. You know, like, are we gonna like wage it, you know, negotiate over 75 cents for you to come over to my— and then also, if any of these tasks involving— are involving like a strange person entering your, your home and property, you know, these are people on the brink of death. Yeah, that's— yeah, someone's going to be like, yeah, $20 to, you know, clean up a backyard full of dog shit and mow the lawn.

Speaker A: Don't let me near that. Do not let me near that. Wow, that's crazy. Speaker B: Because these are people, I mean, which is so cool. And I wonder, and it has like a little like kind of gambling economy energy to it. Definitely. I mean, I'll do it for $23, and you're like, $21.50. Yeah, that's what I can do. You know, like, are we gonna like wage it, you know, negotiate over 75 cents for you to come over to my— and then also, if any of these tasks involving— are involving like a strange person entering your, your home and property, you know, these are people on the brink of death.

Yeah, that's— yeah, someone's going to be like, yeah, $20 to, you know, clean up a backyard full of dog shit and mow the lawn. Speaker A: Like, oh, I, I wouldn't— I don't do dog stuff, but I would— Speaker B: I I mean, I would mow a lawn for $20 all day. Speaker A: Mow a lawn for $20 is just, yeah, that's like pretty standard stuff. I mean, depending, obviously a London lawn is not going to be, depending on, you know, what neighborhood, it's not going to be— Speaker B: Unless it's the cricket pitch, of course.

Speaker A: It's not going to be sprawling, I would assume. You know, I was, I thought of you— It wasn't at Plum Sykes' house. Because at the Met, we were having dinner before the GQ party and my friend Sam was like, yeah, actually I bet on Polly Market that Frank Ocean wouldn't be at the Met because I knew for a fact he wouldn't be there. And I won like a— not, not crazy, but like enough money to be like, sick, that was easy. Speaker B: Yeah, I think about that stuff sometimes where there's information that I know a little bit like that.

And I always wonder like what— like when you fully do know, confirm that something's not going to happen or, you know, like we do know that we're about to bomb a country tomorrow and, you know, someone mysteriously bets $900 million that it's going to happen. You know, if I have that locked information, I know that Frank Ocean's not even in the country. What's stopping you from betting your life savings? You know what I mean? I mean, nothing really. Nothing. But then how come nobody ever does it? I think everyone has like in your mind, you know, without thinking about it, what's the dollar amount that you would put on it?

Speaker B: Yeah, I think about that stuff sometimes where there's information that I know a little bit like that. And I always wonder like what— like when you fully do know, confirm that something's not going to happen or, you know, like we do know that we're about to bomb a country tomorrow and, you know, someone mysteriously bets $900 million that it's going to happen. You know, if I have that locked information, I know that Frank Ocean's not even in the country. What's stopping you from betting your life savings? You know what I mean?

I mean, nothing really. Nothing. But then how come nobody ever does it? I think everyone has like in your mind, you know, without thinking about it, what's the dollar amount that you would put on it? Speaker A: $1,900 is what I thought of. Yeah. Like $1,000. I mean, it's also, it's just silly, but like, why not $10,000? Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. Speaker A: You're right. I mean, I know I'm never going to do this. This is something that I'm absolutely not going to do. Speaker B: I guess if I think it's because that 1% chance in the back of your mind that if you lost $10,000 on some bullshit like this, you might jump off of a fucking— Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A: You're going to be mad. Your chick going to be mad. Everybody going to be mad at your ass. Speaker B: I'm jumping off the Golden Gate. It was a fucking shoo-in. Speaker A: I didn't know he caught a flight. What do you want me to do? I am. I wanted to talk about Phoebe Bridgers, um, because, you know, she's, she's back. And I was thinking she's doing these— Yonder Case King, my Yonder Case King. So Phoebe, Phoebe is— there's, there's a new album, and unfortunately for me, it seems to be space-themed because she's doing these pop-up shows in, um, Roswell, New Mexico.

She did Roswell, New Mexico and Lubbock, Texas, which are both like— they both have famed alien stories attached to them. And these are small towns. And I was thinking— take me to your dealer. I was thinking yesterday, I was like, this is actually— imagine if you're trying to get a fucking cortado in Roswell, New Mexico, you know what I mean? If Phoebe Bridgers is in town, there ain't no way. There ain't nobody. The whole city shuts down. There ain't nobody to serve you. Anybody, anybody that like you try— Speaker B: I mean, dude, it's bad.

Yeah, the, the milk options are not going to make you happy. Speaker A: There's no service workers left in fucking Lubbock, Texas if Phoebe Bridgers is playing for 300. But I'm hearing So she didn't let— she didn't let you bring in cameras. Obviously it was a Yonder Pouch, you know, comedy show style thing. But then there was also a, you can't bring pen and paper, which I thought was so sick to say no pen and paper because, you know, her fans are definitely moleskin-ass, number 2 pencil-ass fans who would write down her lyrics and then, you know, tell us about Bo Burnham on Reddit for the next 3 months before the album comes out.

Speaker B: Which I don't like that. I don't— I think that if you care so much to bring in a paper and pencil to write down these lyrics, she should let you because that's, that's a, it's an analog. I think it's funny dedication. Speaker A: I think it's all, I think it's all funny because her fans are so cucked. She could literally be like, wear one shoe and shave your head, and they'd be like, all right, whatever is, whatever you say, mother, we'll be there. Like, it doesn't charge you $1,000, shave your head, get a tattoo, pierce your nipple.

All right, no problem, I'm in. Speaker B: Yeah, the only way men can be in attendance is you have to show proof of your vasectomy, kind of like the, when you get That's how you get a free Raising Cane's meal on Mother's Day for the fellas. But because I was thinking, like, what's worse, you know, not being allowed to bring in a piece of paper and, you know, journal your thoughts and maybe some lyrics that stuck with you at the emo show, which seems like a national pastime for indie musicians.

I think that should be not only allowed but celebrated. What's worse or more cucked, that or, you know, showing up front row and have, you know, setting up your, your Uno card game and your knitting thing on the, on the front of the rail. And then as soon as the show begins, you are filming the entire thing, you know, with yourself in it. You're not enjoying the show. You're not listening to the music. You're only there, you know, to make it about you. What's worse, that or just sitting in the back with a piece of paper diligently scribbling down lyrics about—

Speaker A: How about I'll, how about I'll say that Bo Burnham's dick. Speaker B: How about I say, how about this? Speaker A: I'll let you bring in paper and watercolors if you would like to paint the scene. Mm-hmm. But I, but I'm not gonna let you write anything down. I think that's a good compromise. Obviously that's choosing one creative medium over the other, which I hate to do. Um, and I'm sure Phoebe hates it as well. But then today these black and white photos came out of her in the lab with, with Maddie and Antonoff.

Speaker B: Some friends and some enemies. Also Bo Burnham in the lab too. Speaker A: Oh, you know, he's cooking famously a musician. Yeah. Speaker B: He's, uh, he's ba— he's the Arab music of McNabb. Mallie Jackson. Speaker A: But the— but I'm saying, I— people are saying that the album is, is very, you know, she's playing harmonica, it's very folky. I did hear some of the, the Brandon Flowers that I was talking about, his soul album, and it is also leaning country-ish. And I'm just saying that it's Chris season, baby.

I'm eating all these motherfuckers. We got, we got Rostin with the pedal steel, we got Phoebe with the harmonica, we got Brandon Flowers with the full Merle Haggard twang. Like, this is— this is Chris sees it. We're back, baby. Chris moves culture. I'm just saying to you, bro, this is it. The pedal steel. If you play pedal steel— Colin, my friend Colin that plays with Katie, and if you're— if you're Sandy that plays with Jay, this is your time. Like, you got to get your— you got to get your social going.

Let's get some deals going because you are going to be in demand. Everybody's going to want the pedal steel. It's one of our greatest instruments. I've said it before, and it seems like The music industry at large is really catching up and it's going to catch on this year, Jason. And who knows, what if Drake— what if there's pedal steel on Iceman? We don't— we can't be sure that there's not. We can't be sure that 40 didn't call in some Nashville heavy hitters. We don't know. It's true. We have a week left, you know what I'm saying?

Morby— I saw Morby play this surprise show, this small show at Lucinda's. You already know what's going on. You already know he's got saxophone. Speaker B: Yeah, they were— 40 was sending the album in for mastering. They finally finished it, and then they scrapped it all and got Big Thief in the studio. They're gonna restructure most of the second act. Speaker A: You know, it was good, not great. So we sent, we sent Drake down to Durham. He's gonna sit with Brad for a little while, kind of figure out what to do.

I don't— there might be a Hiss Golden Messenger feature. We don't know yet. Exactly. Speaker B: I would love to see 40 and Brad going blunt for blunt, dude. That honestly, that's right. That's my— that's your verses. Speaker A: That's my verses. No, honestly, I just was like, well, after Blount, after Blount, we'll do one in Durham, one in Toronto, one on the Bridle Path, one in Durham, bar for bar. See who wins. I mean, I, I just think it's a, I just think it's a good sign overall for me.

You know, it feels good right now. Speaker B: So is this a recession D indicator? Speaker A: Great question. I mean, I, I wonder, look, if Iceman comes out and it's a smash, it could put a hurtin' on, on the pedal steel return. People might not notice it as much if I'm not screaming it from the mountaintops, you know, um, pink mountaintops if you will. But, uh, I don't know if, um, I don't, I don't know what's, what's in the water, you know what I mean? I don't know what it is.

Speaker B: I think, um, well, like I was saying before about how people really feel the need to make things about them, and you know, when, when people are becoming musicians, instrumentalists you know, a big part of what they're doing, or, you know, even a stand-up comedian or whatever. So much of what they're doing is for social media audiences. And I think those instruments, the pedal steel, the banjo, blah, blah, blah, that style of picking is sort of pick-me behavior, pardon the pun. So, you know, nobody wants to just be a regular old musician.

Like, no one's going to care about my drumming unless I'm doing the gnarliest drum solo ever, or, you know, I'm not just going to be a really good guitar player. I'm going to be like, what if I played My Bloody Valentine but it sounded a little bit like that, you know? And it has to just be some plucking, shredding, like, look at me do my thing. Look how I made this thing about me. We need more people, you know, everyone's saying like we need more plumbers and electricians. We need more rhythm guitar players and drummers that just stay in the pocket and shut the fuck up.

Speaker A: Stay in the pocket. Speaker B: Not no sleep token bullshit. Not no What if we did a drop D on this Primus thing and this is how I play this? Speaker A: I agree. Play your part, bro. Just play your part. It ain't about you. Speaker B: I don't care that your vocal range is 7 octaves. Speaker A: Well, talk to your boys in Greta Van Fleet. That video, Greta Van Fleet, that video came out of them. And I was literally, I knew that people hated them. So I think I never really listened to it.

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Great video though. Really making the rounds. Really making the rounds. I, I look, I also, I like the Charli song. And at first I was like, I'm not sure about this. And you know what switched me on it, which is really interesting, is I kept hearing it in people's Instagram stories. Okay. And I was like, this, this is really catchy and I really like it. Speaker B: It got beaten into your head. So are you saying that it, it, it worked or it acted better or, uh, maybe the, the pill was able to be swallowed when it was— Speaker A: I think it's like the way that like a vehicle for a video narration versus just the song.

I mean, I guess it's just like the way people are like, yo, gotta listen to it in the car, or, oh, I gotta hear it in the club, you know what I mean? I think that, I think that there is a world where like you hear things like almost ambiently on Instagram and you're like, oh wait, like, that's that new Charlie song, and I really actually like this a lot. You don't realize— like, I don't realize necessarily the video is really good. The new audio clip that you made, Charlie, a minute 55 is giving audio clip, you know.

It's, it's It's very short, sure, but I, I like it. And I think it's like, I, I've, I like how polarizing it is too. I think it's like, uh, it's funny that people just cannot lose their fucking minds. Just lose their minds. Well, and George is in the video, you know what I mean? Which is nice to see George on drums is where, you know, how God intended. Because she could have hired somebody, but you know, why buy the milk when you got the, you get the cow for free, you know what I mean?

Speaker B: It's like, yeah, we've got rock at home, babe, and it's just George shredding on the fucking skins, man. We've got rock at home. Speaker A: No, there's got to be somebody else we can hire. No, no, we've got Rocket. Speaker B: Yeah, that's so— imagine being George, you're just waking up, you're making your little pour-over for a spliff of the day, and she's like, babe, I'm making rock music. And he's like, what year is it? I've been doing that for like years. And now suddenly you— that's kind of my fucking thing.

Speaker A: Here we go again. All right, fine. I'll be in the video. Speaker A: Here we go again. All right, fine. I'll be in the video. Speaker B: It's interesting to see when things like this happen, how people who just don't know, like just a random person who's just like, listen to this new song versus somebody like you and I or a Coscarelli or whatever, like people who pay close attention to music and culture and trends and blah, blah, blah. And the way different people react to it. And people like us, everyone's very skittish and like, what does it mean?

And what is the— Yeah. What is this? How is this shaping the culture? And then other people are like, that's the song where it goes like, ah. Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do think that— Yeah, I do think that we are— Speaker B: Like when I actually yesterday, So when I was getting ready for putting my playlist together Carolynne was like oh can you on one of your songs tonight have it do that Charlie effect? And I'm like what do you mean Autotune? She's like no— Have a song where it's da-da-da-da-da-dah!

Yeah sure if that's what you want... That's all we could throw through on it. But to me the irony is: You never know if Charli's being serious or trolling; Are you making fun of yourself? Or make fun of the world? Is it earnest—is not—or wait is it aware?! Wink, is it not? And I like that the song, which is like, the dance floor is dead, I'm making rock music, but ironically, that's the song. It's sort of like 3 sections of perfectly sampleable chunks of sound that can easily be remixed into the dance floor filler song of the summer.

Speaker A: Oh, don't worry. Speaker B: You know, which is so smart because you can— like, I'm a rocker. I'm making a rock album. I'm going to do a rock tour. And now I have, you know, the next 18 months sorted out. And then everyone else is just going to go on Ableton and Fruity Loops and make amazing club remixes of all of these. You know, you can get 3 different songs out of this. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker A: Harrison's got his thinking cap on for sure. Speaker B: Harrison's going to shred this one.

Harrison, do that with, you know, Deezy Rascal Bonkers mashup with this one. I would do it if I had the time, Harry, but I just don't. Okay. Speaker A: You got a 6-hour flight this week, bitch. Let's go. Like, let's come on. This is it, this is it. Nothing I'd love to see more. You got your little— why don't you pull out your little— don't you have one of those little— when you see the real heads on the plane and they got the— what's the shit they bring on the plane?

The MIDI, the little keyboard. Speaker B: Oh yeah, the look. That's really, that's really when you're really trying to get pussy. That's broke hoe behavior to me. You're, you're a real head when you have the little audio interface, the just a little— Speaker A: yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker B: Like, can't you just plug your headphones into the headphone jack? Like, nah, nah, I gotta go XLR. Sorry, that's just different. Speaker A: It's also, it's been Bro, our boy, our boy Jake Shane's gotten— getting body shots again, fam. And I can't— body by Jake, body by Jake.

I mean, look, he's, he's posting shirtless selfies working out at the Alo gym. He's working on his body. And he— I mean, look, Kacey Musgraves, I tried to get her on How Long Gone. They were basically like, that's cute, but we emailed you about another client and we're not gonna— you know, they try to play game, they try to play games. I was like, look, I'm sorry, we gotta— Kacey Musgraves, we, we love— obviously we're fans of hers here. The new album is pretty good. Jake Shane asked her, basically asked her about a lyric that forced her to explain time zones to him.

And he is getting— I mean, this is all— this guy can't win, man. And like, now people are coming to defend him. They're like, well, that's not actually what he was doing. He was actually— it's like, dude, just— it's fine. He's just— he's bad at it, but it doesn't seem to be stopping him. Speaker B: He can win. And that's why he's not stopping is because it doesn't matter. He's publicly humiliating himself sort of. But his core audience and the reason why he makes hundreds of thousands of dollars in brand endorsements every year is because the people that love him, pay attention to him, and are converted by his content also don't understand that lyric and also don't understand what the big deal is about why he doesn't have a concept of how time zones work.

I'm sort of fine with— They're also confused by that lyric. Speaker A: Well, look, time zones are confusing. I mean, let's get it, let's get it clear. I have to use a calendar. I got to Google and stuff. Yeah. I guess I just don't understand like what people are like, oh, we, you know, we used to have Charlie Rose and Diane Sawyer. Now we got Jake Shane, you know? And it's like, well, I don't think that like, I think that is true, but I also don't know if some, I don't know.

I just don't think it's like there, there are people doing the same thing that are better than him. Speaker B: I mean, like our, we got our guy, we got our man HH. From Song Exploder coming on the pod this week. We got, you know, Talk Easy with Sam. Like, we have, um, Joe and, and John on Popcast. Like, we have people interviewing these, these musicians very intelligently, much better than we do. Yeah, there's people doing this out there, and those people make money. It gets hits. Those clips do well.

But also, you know, so she needs to go and talk to all those people about the process. So all of her, you know, upwardly mobile, intelligent intelligent, thoughtful fans can enjoy that. And then, you know, you have to go tap in with Jake Shane for all of the, all of the fan base that you possess that happens to be dumb. And that's most of your fan base. Speaker A: If you're a global pop star, I think most people's fan— that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I think most people's fan bases are dumb.

So I don't know if the Diane Sawyer, Charlie Rose would work in the same way for everybody. Like, I think that works for certain people. I mean, like when Joe was doing Diary of a Song, like, that shit was amazing. I love that. I still think about it all the time, and it was like, this is great, it's easy to digest, it's like, it shows that side of it. But if— yeah, you can't just do that. No one can just go do that. Speaker B: And it's not— and it's not a reflection of your quality of music.

Like, no, Kacey Musgraves, whatever you're doing, if you're big enough, you have dumb people listening to it. Because just— that's how— like, do you think Snail Mail wants to do like a Target-only like vinyl thing where she filmed? No, but like, hell no, people buy your records from Target to where it makes sense for you to do it because you're just leaving money on the table. Speaker A: Yeah, it's just, I don't think that, I think that Jake, I mean, it's funny that this keeps happening to him. Of course, some people, money's still green, dude.

Greener, I would say. I would say that it's, it's funny that it keeps happening to him, but I also think it's only working in his favor. I think it's one of those classic things where it's like, sure, a bunch of people we know are like dunking on him on Twitter, and his views and, and wallet only getting fatter. Of course. Speaker B: Um, yeah, and one day Kaia Gerber will come to her senses and leave that man. Kaia, you don't need anyone to make you look skinnier than you already are.

Speaker A: Yeah, when you're the baddest in the game, you don't got to sit with Jake Shane. I mean, it does make her feel taller. Weight achieved. I think he, uh, it's pretty funny Variety, like, basically every time this happens, Variety really goes after him and people are like, all right, what's going on? Like, why is Variety hanging Jake Shanter dry every time he misspeaks? And it's so fun. It's all so funny. Yeah. But yeah, I really think it, I really think it all, it's only helping him. And in that way, I'm sort of like, if you can roll with the punches and just be yourself and it works, like, God bless.

Speaker B: Um, yeah, and one day Kaia Gerber will come to her senses and leave that man. Kaia, you don't need anyone to make you look skinnier than you already are. Speaker A: Yeah, when you're the baddest in the game, you don't got to sit with Jake Shane. I mean, it does make her feel taller. Weight achieved. I think he, uh, it's pretty funny Variety, like, basically every time this happens, Variety really goes after him and people are like, all right, what's going on? Like, why is Variety hanging Jake Shanter dry every time he misspeaks?

And it's so fun. It's all so funny. Yeah. But yeah, I really think it, I really think it all, it's only helping him. And in that way, I'm sort of like, if you can roll with the punches and just be yourself and it works, like, God bless. Speaker B: I can't, no hate here. Yeah. And you know, maybe, maybe Jake Shanter, he's going to take all that money that he made from all of this content You know, all the ad sales and rev from those clips going viral, and maybe he will invest in, you know, an SAT course or maybe some community college.

He'll learn about how the time zones work, you know, the rotation of the earth and things like that. But I mean, when I first heard that song out, you know, to def— in Jake's defense, that lyric does kind of come out of nowhere. I did understand the meaning of it. Speaker A: Well, it's a clunky— it's a clunky— it's a clunky lyric. Speaker B: It is clunky, but that's why It's, you know, it's, it's that zit on the forehead. It's calling out. It's saying like, hey, look at me, pay attention to me.

So I could see why he might think that this is like a, you know, a metaphor or a euphemism for something else versus like, you know, the sun is going up in one part of the world and it's going down in another part of the world just because of how the world rotates and stuff. But I hate to defend Little Jake, the Shephard Khan, but you know, what are you going to do? Speaker B: It is clunky, but that's why It's, you know, it's, it's that zit on the forehead. It's calling out.

It's saying like, hey, look at me, pay attention to me. So I could see why he might think that this is like a, you know, a metaphor or a euphemism for something else versus like, you know, the sun is going up in one part of the world and it's going down in another part of the world just because of how the world rotates and stuff. But I hate to defend Little Jake, the Shephard Khan, but you know, what are you going to do? Speaker A: Not Jake Shephard Khan. Oh, that's going to stick.

Sorry, sorry, big dog. Speaker B: Sorry, big bro. Look, I mean, if you're like that annoying of a person and you rise to celebrity fame and fortune, you hang out with bad chicks, make a lot of money, do whatever you want, fly private, all that shit. Take your lumps. Speaker A: I had to tap in with the gay homies, see who's beating. That's what I need to know. I haven't heard any. I haven't heard any of the gay homies on who's beating. Speaker B: Imagine him and Sam Smith in the same fucking sniffies chat.

Speaker A: Don't, don't, don't do that. Do not take me— not on Mother's Day, Jason. Don't take my mind there. Speaker B: I love to see Jake Shane riding Sam Smith around like a minotaur in that little outfit. Dude, do not. Riding him around the car lot. Speaker A: Shane Smith. Shane Smith. Shane has a part— why am I saying Shane? What's Sam? Speaker B: Sam Smith and Shane Smith. Have you ever seen them both in the same room? Something to think about. Speaker A: Something to think about. That's a How Long Gone exclusive.

How Long Gone exclusive. That's actually crazy. Speaker B: That's actually really good. These are the dos and don'ts of dressing like an anal devil. Speaker B: Sam Smith and Shane Smith. Have you ever seen them both in the same room? Something to think about. Speaker A: Something to think about. That's a How Long Gone exclusive. How Long Gone exclusive. That's actually crazy. Speaker B: That's actually really good. These are the dos and don'ts of dressing like an anal devil. Speaker A: Dude, that's really— that's honestly— I've never thought about that.

Yeah, I did watch Noah Khan on SNL last night and I was sort of— it all is making more sense to me. Me now, Jason. They were good. Like, it's like a real band who can play. Sure. And you know how SNL is famously like, people suck, especially if they're not real bands? Oh yeah. But I, I forget because he's obviously 10 years or more younger than us, and I'm realizing now there's an entire generation of guys like this that were like raised on Bon Iver. Like, that is their— that is their GOAT.

Like, Somber says that Noah Kahn says that, like, it's, it's very interesting that it's like I'm taking Bon Iver and making it like Dashboard Confessional with like Vermont granola thrown in the mix, and it, and it really works. And now I'm, I'm starting to like get it more from a conceptual— because to me Noah Kahn sounds like Dashboard Confessional in overalls and barefoot, but he thinks, he thinks it sounds like Cat Stevens and Bon Iver. Boney Vare. Do you know what I mean? Yes. It's like one of those situations. Speaker B: Yes.

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I guess if Bone, you know, when we were building with him, we went and saw Bob Dylan and, you know, he's just saying like, you know, basically I'm just trying to sound like Bob Dylan and it comes out like Boney Vare. And I'm sure Noah Kahan is just thinking like, I'm just trying to sound like Cat Stevens and Boney Vare. But, you know, it ends up coming out differently just based on your flora and fauna. Yeah, so it's, it's just that nice little trickle down. And I'm sure there are a lot of podcasts that are awful that are like, yeah, it's just, we're just doing our How Long Gone thing, you know.

Speaker B: Yes. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I guess if Bone, you know, when we were building with him, we went and saw Bob Dylan and, you know, he's just saying like, you know, basically I'm just trying to sound like Bob Dylan and it comes out like Boney Vare. And I'm sure Noah Kahan is just thinking like, I'm just trying to sound like Cat Stevens and Boney Vare. But, you know, it ends up coming out differently just based on your flora and fauna. Yeah, so it's, it's just that nice little trickle down.

And I'm sure there are a lot of podcasts that are awful that are like, yeah, it's just, we're just doing our How Long Gone thing, you know. Speaker A: I just, I, I was like, oh, that's just, that's what this is like, that it's like, this is more like, this is more like Dashboard Confessional than it is anything else to me. It's like a guy with acoustic, you know, obviously it's the same, you know, I think of it as like probably started as acoustic, now he's got a full band. You know, and it's this whole, you know, it's a much bigger thing.

Yeah. But he was, he was good. Unfortunately, he was good. Speaker B: And this is sort of part of your little, uh, your folk banjo pedal steel. Exactly. Speaker A: Um, you know, yeah, he's the, he's the, the version I want to listen to the least, but at the same time it slaps. Speaker B: Like a rising tide lifts all boats. Exactly. Speaker A: It's undeniably like good for, you know, what it is just in terms of it just being hashtag music. Yeah. On its face. Hits. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Speaker B: You, um, you wrote about the, the Tony biopic.

I haven't read that yet though. Yeah, on the pulling weeds, I was basically just like, could you distill that for me please? Speaker A: No mistakes. It's— I mean, we've talked about before, I think his whole thing has aged really poorly, and I think that making a sort of sanitized, like, Hollywood— it's like about the part of his life that's most boring. Like, I want to know about him doing heroin and committing suicide. I don't want to know about him learning to fucking dress a salad in, in Provincetown with Antonio Banderas.

Like, that doesn't— that's— I mean, I get it. Like, I think that's like how he wants— I think that's probably how people want him to be remembered, you know what I mean? But I think the darkness of him is what made him actually interesting, and this seems like it, it sort of, sort of ignores all of that. Speaker B: You, um, you wrote about the, the Tony biopic. I haven't read that yet though. Yeah, on the pulling weeds, I was basically just like, could you distill that for me please? Speaker A: No mistakes.

It's— I mean, we've talked about before, I think his whole thing has aged really poorly, and I think that making a sort of sanitized, like, Hollywood— it's like about the part of his life that's most boring. Like, I want to know about him doing heroin and committing suicide. I don't want to know about him learning to fucking dress a salad in, in Provincetown with Antonio Banderas. Like, that doesn't— that's— I mean, I get it. Like, I think that's like how he wants— I think that's probably how people want him to be remembered, you know what I mean?

But I think the darkness of him is what made him actually interesting, and this seems like it, it sort of, sort of ignores all of that. Speaker B: Taking a page out of the Michael Jackson flick, huh? Speaker A: Yeah, I just don't know. I just don't know. But people are saying they— Speaker B: the Michael Jackson stopping before before he did his sinister actions. They stopped right there, potentially setting up, you know, Michael 2. Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I think we're going to get Tony 2. I don't think— I mean, Michael 2 makes sense because he's Michael fucking Jackson.

I think that Anthony Bourdain, I don't know if we need 2. Speaker B: What if they get Asia Argento to play herself? Speaker A: Now we're talking. I mean, now we're talking. I just— I want— I mean, maybe it'll be good. The role of a lifetime. Speaker B: Weinstein's going to set it all up from Rikers. Speaker A: Just what he inspired is so funny. Just like the, the way that people— like, he really did, did cause, uh, more harm than good, I would say, in the overall. As much as I, as much as I like the TV show in the time and like the books— I think the books are still good.

I think the books are, are his best. Speaker B: Weinstein's going to set it all up from Rikers. Speaker A: Just what he inspired is so funny. Just like the, the way that people— like, he really did, did cause, uh, more harm than good, I would say, in the overall. As much as I, as much as I like the TV show in the time and like the books— I think the books are still good. I think the books are, are his best. Speaker B: He was, he was the Trojan horse.

He was able to go in and destroy the culinary world from the inside out. But I just think that that vibe is— Speaker A: it just feels so dated. Yeah. And like the whole thing feels very like millennial soaked. Speaker B: It's giving a mustache tattoo on the finger vibes. Speaker A: Exactly. Shannon Sossamon. Exactly. And maybe that's why they've stuck to this period, because that sort of avoids that for the most part, you know what I mean? Because it's whatever the '80s are, you know, I would assume. Speaker B: Yeah.

And also, we, we— in order for a movie to sell and do well, the, the lead typically has to be an attractive person in their 20s. Otherwise it's just financially not going to be And Anthony Bourdain, for all of his, you know, ills, he did look cool. Speaker A: For a guy on TV, he looked about as good as you can look. Speaker B: He was giving Mark Bolen. Speaker A: Yeah. He like looked cool. He had a full head of hair. He didn't dress— Hung trade. He didn't dress stupid.

You know what I mean? He was still skinny. I think that— but you're right. Having a Dominique Cessna, you have to— yeah. You don't— we don't want a 40-year-old guy. But it's— and Stavie's in it, which is cool. Speaker B: Yeah. It was funny. I was talking to my brother. About that trailer, and he was like, it's so funny because he grew up— my brother's grown up working in restaurants. He's like, every single restaurant has that Stavi guy in it. Yeah. And the first 2 weeks it's really funny, and then it instantly is like, oh, this is the worst fucking person.

We were joking around like it's all fun and games, like this guy says funny stuff and calls people names, and then 2 weeks later he like grabs a hostess's ass in the freezer or something like that, and you gotta like call the police, get rid of of them. Speaker B: Yeah. It was funny. I was talking to my brother. About that trailer, and he was like, it's so funny because he grew up— my brother's grown up working in restaurants. He's like, every single restaurant has that Stavi guy in it. Yeah.

And the first 2 weeks it's really funny, and then it instantly is like, oh, this is the worst fucking person. We were joking around like it's all fun and games, like this guy says funny stuff and calls people names, and then 2 weeks later he like grabs a hostess's ass in the freezer or something like that, and you gotta like call the police, get rid of of them. Speaker A: That's— that feels— that feels very true in this case. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I, I don't— I'm sure it will do fairly well, you know what I mean, just because he's got so many.

But I do feel like also it's, um, yeah, I don't know. He doesn't feel super like remembered the way other people do, if that makes sense, you know what I mean? If it doesn't feel like every year on his birthday I see him, you know, it's not Dylan Reeder. I don't see a million pictures of him every year on his birthday or whatever. It doesn't seem— it maybe it didn't— maybe I'm not the only one that thinks it didn't age well, I guess, is what I'm saying. Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's because the breadth of his work is a TV show that is kind of bad, you know, and obviously Kitchen Confidential and his first book or two, those will be infamously passed down.

But a lot of the content in there is sort of very dated. Like, we don't need— like when it came out, it was like, holy shit, don't buy fish on a Monday from a restaurant because like, oh my God, like they're really peeling back. Like, this is all old news now. But, you know, the books are doing well, but the show You go back and watch it and, you know, it unfortunately did not age well. It's only interesting to see like which, which seasons he was like actively battling, you know, suicidal thoughts and drug use versus— yeah, you know, which ones where he became addicted to jiu-jitsu and was fucking body tea shit.

Um, but RIP to the God. Um, lastly, I was thinking about, um, a new emerging trend We were talking maybe a year or two ago about Benson Boone, the backflipping of it all, about how— Speaker A: Damn, I forgot about Boone. He's off cycle and you bring him up? Speaker B: That's crazy. Go ahead. Yeah, he's busy. He's doing stuff. But when we were talking about how it's no longer enough to just be a talented person who does a thing, you host a show or you make music or you're an actor or whatever, you have to do these kind of physical challenges now.

You have to do the dance when you're on you know, the TV show, you walk down the hallway, the aisle. I forgot what show it is, but you know, you have to do these stunt things and you have to show your like weird skill instead of just like talking about what you're doing. And I've noticed that the women, the female pop stars are now having to do their own kind of more subdued versions of these physical challenges. Whereas Benson is very much like, I'm going to do a backflip. Watch me, watch me.

Hey dad, watch me kind of thing. But we got friend of the show and co-host from the GQ red carpet with us, Quinn Blackwell. Oh, I saw this. I've seen multiple, multiple photos of her doing— she goes on the red carpet and does a headstand. Speaker A: But she was doing that for the paparazzi outside of a party. Speaker B: Yeah. So one of them was on the red carpet at the Billie Eilish 3D tour film release party. And then another one appeared to be in the literal gutter in front of the Château Marmont.

Yeah, the literal gutter where she does a headstand. So she's in Benson Boone's plate. It's kind of— it's like her version of doing a backflip. We got Olivia Rodrigo doing headstands on the beach. We got Dua Lipa, every other video she's, you know, showing off her planking abilities and her Pilates shit. Everyone is going inverted. The girlies are inverting for 2026. It's the new trend. Speaker A: Watch this space. I'm not disagreeing with you on that. And I think that the thing when a woman does a handstand— Upside down bitches stay winning.

When there's inversion, there's a chance that a titty pops out. And I think that is what— I feel like that's what they're hoping for. A little slip. Oh no, you caught me. Oh, that's so crazy. Speaker B: Okay, so win-win for all parties. And to quote Dave Chappelle, come on titty. Speaker A: But yeah, come on titty. Come on titty. Speaker B: It's the real— you know, in, in an AI world where we are altering our face in post-production, we're altering our face with surgeries and injections, we don't know what's real on the body and what's not.

You know, you got Lauren Sanchez and Kylie Jenner and all these people, you look at the before and after, these are two different people. You can't trust it. But when a bitch go upside down, all the cards are on the table. You get to see A, core strength, you can't really cheat that. You can't get core strength in a pill or a needle. And number 2, the way that body sits when gravity come at you upside down, shit, shit look different, you know what I mean? So that underarm turns into the upper arm, you know what I mean?

Damn, under titty is now top. Speaker A: I'll say gravity will come for all of us. That's the one thing. Speaker B: Is that booty sitting because it's in those truies, or is that booty sitting because you've been getting after it at Dog Pound? Speaker A: Yes, it's leg day at Dog Pound. Speaker B: Speaking of ass sitting in the truies, I saw Zara Larsson yesterday at the hotel and I saw the AirPod pop out of her pocket right in the same curb that Quinn Blackwell put her headstand on. You know, the classic AirPod case lands slow motion on the asphalt, Times Square, you know, piss and shit everywhere.

It's the worst. Left earpod goes flying 20 feet to the left, right earpod pod 7 feet to the right. Case goes 4 feet over there. And she went over and picked it up and put it back in her pocket. At that point, charge it to the game, right? Speaker A: Yes, it's leg day at Dog Pound. Speaker B: Speaking of ass sitting in the truies, I saw Zara Larsson yesterday at the hotel and I saw the AirPod pop out of her pocket right in the same curb that Quinn Blackwell put her headstand on.

You know, the classic AirPod case lands slow motion on the asphalt, Times Square, you know, piss and shit everywhere. It's the worst. Left earpod goes flying 20 feet to the left, right earpod pod 7 feet to the right. Case goes 4 feet over there. And she went over and picked it up and put it back in her pocket. At that point, charge it to the game, right? Speaker A: No, she's a humble queen. I like that. I like that. Don't send your man to pick it up. Speaker B: But she was keeping all that in the chewies.

I'm sure she was. Speaker A: Final, I just saw a tweet earlier today that I wanted to read for you before we go. TI wife look like a garlic knot. I don't know. I don't know if you've seen that before, But I'm in Atlanta, I got I. on the brain. I just thought that one was pretty funny. I just thought that was pretty funny. Speaker B: I guess there's a variety of pastry case items that she could be, you know, mistaken as. Speaker A: But garlic knot is particularly cutting, I would say, in the scheme of pastry.

Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, if you are just arguing with a person and he says your bitch look like a, built like a garlic knot, you have to fight them. It's really funny. Speaker A: All right, How Long Gone, thank you for listening. Uh, we'll be back next week with some more podcasts, and we'll talk to you guys soon. The dancehall is dead, so now we're making rock music. Speaker A: All right, How Long Gone, thank you for listening. Uh, we'll be back next week with some more podcasts, and we'll talk to you guys soon.

The dancehall is dead, so now we're making rock music.