#2511 - Terry Bradshaw

[00:00] the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day pull up under the microphone mr bradshaw they're catching now [00:18] Rainbow trout. Oh, yeah? Killed them. I've been up to this our fourth year. You fly fish? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But you're not fly fishing. You come back. [00:29] In July for fly fishing. This is fly fishing, but you've got a fly bobber. It's a fly. Then you've got that. [00:38] tiny, tiny bug. I mean, you can't even see it, and that's what you catch them on.

So you're using a fly rod, but you have a bobber and a little tiny fly? The bobber is a... [00:52] Basically, a big moth or something. Okay. That holds it up. Right, right. It's bobber, cork, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just a different kind of fly fishing. [01:03] What you're doing, because you're in a boat, you know, fast that water's moving. Right. And you just go down through there, and they move it to the jets and jetties and stuff. So you find, like, the pools where they're waiting. Yeah, you go, and you just find it.

It goes, boom. [01:21] Oh, brown trout. Yeah, it was a good time. [01:24] Yeah, trout fishing is very fun. Yeah, it is. Fly fishing is a completely different thing. It's very skillful. I like fly fishing, too. We did that last year in July and didn't have near the... [01:38] I didn't really catch hardly anything, to be honest with you. Yeah. I mean, maybe. [01:43] Five or six a day. That's a lot. Yeah. [01:46] For fly fishing? We caught almost 110 hours. Really? Yeah. 100 trout? That's crazy. Don't say where you were.

People are all going to swarm that place. No, I don't. I didn't bring my phone. I'll show you pictures. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. [02:03] Wow. I'll tell you something funny. I carry... [02:07] Yeah, we're filming. I figured we were. I carry a baby Jesus with me. Let me tell you what happened. You carry a baby Jesus? Baby Jesus. Like from the manger? Yeah. [02:17] Yes, Jesus. It's Jesus. We call it baby Jesus. Okay. Okay? Oh, so it is just grown-up Jesus. Right. It has a beard and everything. Yeah, exactly.

Okay. [02:27] We're not catching anything. [02:28] So I reached in my pocket. I don't know why, looking for my life. I don't know what I was doing. And I had this baby Jesus. I said, oh, Jesus. [02:38] My son-in-law's in the back. I said, I got baby Jesus with me. And I set him on the box facing me. [02:47] You ready, Joe? [02:48] 1. [02:49] Two, three, four, five, six. Six giant rainbow in a row. So my son-in-law is at the back and he's going, [02:59] Turn baby Jesus towards me.

I turned around. I took baby Jesus toward him. One, two, three, four, five. [03:08] Five, six. [03:09] I went, no, this. We caught 12 rainbow... [03:16] Anywhere from 15 to 20 inches. Whoa. Yeah, that's big. That's a good rainbow. So the guide, I mean, he got a little tripped out. He said, hey, man, you're kind of messing with me here. That's kind of got me a little screwed up. I started laughing. I said, man, you get the power of Jesus in here. So we kept it all day. Before I left, I gave it to him.

[03:46] every day. So that's it was kind of fun. I don't think that's something you should use every day. I think that that should be like for special trips. You don't want to ask Jesus every day to help you catch fish. I don't go fishing every day. But yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying? I didn't I didn't need I wouldn't normally need help. But trout fishing, you know, I need help. I'm bass fishing and yeah, I'm pretty good on my own. But if things get desperate, I'm not I mean, I don't want to push it.

You know what I'm saying? I want to push it. Oh, by the way, Jeff died to me. He said hello. [04:17] Oh, you know Jeff? Yeah. I know. I did a... [04:20] Two years of Better Late Than Never with him. Oh, I love Jeff. Yeah. Good dude. Yeah. Solid dude. [04:28] Man's Van, what's with all the whiskey? [04:30] Did you bring that? Yeah. I was wondering. You don't drink. I'll drink. Yeah. I quit and then I came back. I quit for eight months. Yeah. [04:40] Not really, like, I didn't have a problem.

I just, health reasons, decided it wasn't a good thing for you. That's smart. You have your own Terry Bradshaw whiskey? Yeah, we've had it now. Come on, son. We've got to have a glass of that. Seven years. Do you drink? [04:52] Yes. You better. I drink this. You're selling whiskey. You better. Yeah, I drink this. Let's have a drink. This is our 12 year that just won all the Golden Awards and spirits. Oh, nice. Yeah, won all of them. So age 12 years? 12 years. 13 now. I was talking with Buffalo Trace about that, and they're like, we ever do.

That's what you drink. Once you drink this, you'll stop drinking that unless they're a sponsor. They are a sponsor. Okay, there you go. And they're nice guys. Okay. And I respect them. That company's been around longer than the country. Long. [05:22] Longer than America. Long time. They started in 1773. I mean, when you go back to Sedley Whiskey. Yeah. Well, they claimed that Elijah Craig was the... [05:32] father of bourbon whiskey. [05:36] And they do research, and then they don't have it back that far where they can actually sit, because Elijah Craig was a preacher.

Oh, really? Yeah, so that frees me up. A preacher who made whiskey. Yeah. [05:49] Wow. So anyway, that's award-winning 12. Jim, can you get some ice and glasses? [05:55] This is our original. This is our two-year. This is the original brand right there. We still have that. What is the original? It's two-year aged? Two. Two. Then with our yeast, we were able to make it taste like four to six. Okay. [06:09] Okay. And so now and then we don't do that anymore. And then this is the. [06:15] This is the good stuff right here.

What's that stuff? This is secure. [06:18] Six years? Oh, yes. So you got 12, 2, and 6. Yeah, actually 12, 4. Can you really tell the difference? Yeah. Yeah. [06:25] Absolutely. Oh, I'm going to tell you right now. [06:29] This is 145 proof. [06:33] Whoa. [06:35] Okay, that's a lot. [06:36] This is 108. [06:39] 103.8. This [06:43] This is amazing. This is a... Why does the older stuff have more alcohol? Is it because of the process of aging? Yeah, because it's also... This is a bourbon that... It's a single barrel bourbon, and when we brought it out, you leave it in there, and this is what it turned out to.

Now, we could dilute it by simply... [07:04] Putting water in it and dilute it down. This is 103.8, and it's 51.9 proof of alcohol. This, this. [07:16] 149. Bust it out, Terry. Let's go. If we bust it, how long are we planning on talk today? We'll talk for a couple hours. We may not be able to make a couple hours. We'll give it our best shot. Okay, we'll do our best. Who can open this? [07:32] I don't have a knife here. Jamie, you got a knife? Oh. Yeah. So we started this.

He throws everything, but he didn't throw the knife. Good man. He's smart, right? Good man. [07:41] A lot of, you know what I noticed coming over here today? A lot of tattoos in here. Yes. Yeah. A lot of tattoos. You mean the building? Jamie's tattoo free. Yeah. A lot of tattoos. He's been thinking about getting my face tattooed on his back. Are you still doing that, Jamie? Is that like a bullseye? [07:58] Stand up. Wait for a good drawing. We made a deal. I'll do his face. He'll do mine. Oh, my God.

Anyway. And I'll have, like, young Jamie and, like, gothic stuff on my back. The thing about bourbon, I don't know how to explain it. [08:11] know why I fell in love with bourbon. I find it to be [08:15] First of all, it's the only thing that's only in America. Bourbon is only bourbon if it's in America. Right. And I think it's only bourbon if it's made in Kentucky. A lot of Kentucky people feel the exact same way. I mean, you ready? Yes, sir. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. [08:35] Time to party.

I'm just going to. This might be the best show you ever have. All right. I'm excited. Yeah. You will be after you drink that. Let it sit. Smells good. Let it sit. [08:47] It smells good. Let it sit. This is the 12-year-old stuff. And what is it called? Bride Shell Bourbon. [08:53] That's the name. [08:54] This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Once you've got a great name for your business, you need a great domain. And Squarespace makes it easy to lock in a domain. You just search the name you want, buy it, and then you're ready to build.

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Tickets available now. [10:24] Can I see? Here's the thing about the 12-year-old. We only have... [10:28] Bradshaw bourbon look at that we only have 15 cases left 15 cases I think they told me so this is a limited edition and then we have to come out with some new stuff but this is actually 13 years old now so you obviously started this project right time ago right I've been aging it for 12 years what I did I [10:51] Cheers, sir. Thank you for being here. Cheers to you, Joe. Thanks for having me.

My pleasure. Thank you. [10:55] What happened, I don't know why. I went to my... Hey, wow. You've got to let it sit. Yeah, that's got to kick. We're going to try this, and then we'll try this. Okay. And you'll definitely see the difference. But I was going to my... I went to my dad, who's father... Someone's driving me home today. My father's father was an alcoholic. [11:18] And I went to my dad prior to him passing, and I said, Hey, Dad, what would you think if I got into the spirits business?

[11:25] And he says, you know what I think. And I went, well, I'm just asking you. And he says, absolutely not. And I said, okay. [11:33] I shut her down. My dad died. [11:37] Oh, wow. It's 12 years ago he died. My mother died two years ago. So anyway, [11:43] So after his passing... [11:47] Two or three years, four years, I was sitting around and I was trying to – I remember William Cohen, Secretary of State William Cohen. He says, what do you do to make a living? I said, well, I work on Fox.

I'm a broadcaster. And he says, is that it? And I said, well, I'm a horse and cattle breeder. I raise registered cattle in the breeding business, training business with quarter horses. He said, oh, okay. He says, is there anything else? I said, well, I get public – I speak for corporations. [12:17] Thank you. [12:17] trying to find out, and he took a liking to him, and he says, basically what he was telling me, you should brand yourself and not have to travel so much. [12:26] Yeah, because I traveled. 250 days last year we traveled.

That's a lot. That's a lot. [12:31] But my wife travels with me, so that's good. That helps. Yeah. What do you want to do with baby Jesus? Let's sit him right here. Sit him right there. See if any fish flop out of the sky. I got him facing you. We'll see what happens. And anyway... [12:44] And so he said, "Basically, you ought to brain yourself, get into something that you can..." And I said, "Well, I don't really know anything." [12:50] I know football. [12:52] I can talk football. I know how to make people laugh.

I know how to give speeches to major corporations and build a program in the speeches. I know quarter horses. I know how to... [13:06] select horses, show horses. I know how to train them. [13:11] I don't do that, but I have a trainer for all that now, and I have people for the breeding part of it. And I said, in cattle, I know... [13:18] Yeah. [13:19] I know the bloodlines and things of that nature, but I got people doing that. So I just got this. I never forgot that. You know, that's William Cohen.

He's a pretty smart dude. And so we were. [13:33] I'm home. I think it was kind of a rainy day, and I'm sitting there, and my little brain's going. I'm going, you know... [13:40] what do you want to do? For some reason, I was going, what do you want to do? Because I remember one time, I remember one time I got real uncomfortable because I didn't have a normal job. So I ran into this guy that owned this cosmetic company and I said, do you have a job? Could you hire me to teach me the cosmetic industry?

And he said, yeah. Yeah. He gave me $5,000 a month. So... [14:02] I had to go to work and put a tie on and a coat because I wanted to be like everybody. Everybody goes to work. Right. But me. Right. [14:11] I'm playing golf in between speeches, which may be a week, two weeks apart. So I got two weeks of golf, and I got, you know, and I just got... When was this? This was 30 years ago. So 30 years ago, you decided to get into the cosmetics business? Yeah. Just to do something?

I wanted to be... I wanted to have a job. Really? I know. Wow. I wanted to have a job. I wanted to be like... I think I wanted to see... [14:41] I wanted to see how America works. People get up and kiss their kids goodbye and their wives or husbands and they go off to work. Right. And I, for some reason, I felt guilty. I didn't have a job. I know. It's stupid. I know. It's interesting. So I got a job. Now, here's the thing, Joe. [15:01] My office was right on the road across the street from the golf course I was a member of, and I was watching my buddies come up the fairway, and I'd stand at the window, and I'd look at them, and I'd go, like, p-p-p.

[15:16] but [15:16] I should be playing golf with those guys right now. Yeah. [15:21] Thank you. [15:22] How long did you last? Two months. [15:25] Damn, I couldn't stand it. Hey, I'll tell you, man, I couldn't stand it. Most people can't. [15:30] But I can't explain it other than I just felt guilty that, you know, people say, well, athletes, they got, you know. It's true. They got all this money, and they got this, and they got that. You smoke cigars, Terry? I do. You want one? Yeah, I do. All right, let me get you one.

I want a really good one. [15:51] You got them? Oh, yeah. Hey, I... [15:55] I love, hey, that's my wife. I've got the only, I'm probably married to the only wife who lets me smoke in the house. Really? You married? Yes, I can't smoke in the house. Oh, see there? Everything you see in this place is because I can't do anything at home. All the elk heads and all the crazy artwork and Jimi Hendrix and all that jazz. Yeah. It's like I let her decorate the house. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[16:20] It's beautiful. It's very exciting. My house would look like a 16-year-old boy won the lottery. That's what it would look like. Well, I can understand that. I don't know why. Honestly. Racing simulators and fake werewolves. I don't know why my wife lets me smoke. But if she said that. She loves you. Yeah. That's why. Oh, you're saying yours doesn't love you. No, mine loves me too, but we make concessions. Okay. [16:42] You know what I mean? But I have a pool room, like where I play pool. In the house?

No, it's out. Oh, outside? Out in the barn. And I go out there and I smoke. [16:53] I have a cigar. Yeah. This one, sir. I'll brush it. Yeah, this is good. [16:58] You smoke Cuban cigars? I do when I can get them. But you know what I mean? There's a lot of them that aren't even really Cuban. They're lying to you. [17:06] Mm. [17:08] There you go, sir. I think out of all the counterfeit stuff. This is going to be the greatest interview I've ever been a part of. We've been having a good time.

Not only are we going to drink award-winning bourbon, Bradshaw bourbon, by the way, and we're smoking. This is an amazing cigar. Yeah, shout out to Foundation Cigars. Wow. What is this? Dominican, I believe. Dominican. [17:27] No, Nicaraguan. [17:29] Yeah. Is it Our Fathers? [17:33] The name of the company? Yeah. No, it's Foundation Cigars. [17:37] I've got to get the name. This is called the Tabernacle. This is his... Foundation cigars. Yeah. Good, right? Oh. Legit, right? Yeah. Yeah. If I had your kind of money, I could afford these, you know. Mm-hmm.

[17:48] Foundation. Also, I'm going to send you a box. Give them to me for free. [17:53] Can I get like a monthly delivery? I bet he will. I bet he will. Just make a little Instagram post or something. He'll be happy to hook you up. [18:01] I got to the friend. He built our house. Huge elk hunter, which I know you are. And so he goes out and he shoots this massive elk. I mean, this monster. The bottom of his horn was like this big round. Just massive. Seven by seven.

In Idaho? [18:20] New Mexico. New Mexico is big. Joe. Extraordinary big elk in New Mexico. Yeah. Shot him with a bow. He's a bow hunter like you. So he brings it home. Now he's got his fireplace. All right. [18:33] He's got... [18:34] Two over here, two over here. [18:38] Well, you've got to balance it up, right? Right. One right in the middle. So he gets his horn. You've got the European mount? Yes. That's what he does. So he gets his stepladder. He's got his horn. He's got the screw in the wall or whatever you do to hold it.

And he's putting it up. And he's looking at it. And he's like... [18:59] Oh. [19:00] Thank you. [19:00] This is good. This is good. He takes a ladder and he moves it out. He gets in his chair. He's admiring his trophy. And it falls down. No, no, no, no, no. The wife walked in. Oh, no. And she says, what are you doing? He goes. [19:16] Look, babe. [19:17] Seven by seven. [19:19] Look, two, two, one in the middle. Perfectly balanced wall. I want that out of here. What? I want that out of here.

Get that out of here. That's not going up there. Bob, get it out of here. He had to take it down. You know where it is now? Where is it now? Garage. I know. I killed him. That's not good. I said, give it to me. I'll hang it in my living room. My wife doesn't care. That's not good. Massive. Yeah. Get it out of here. [19:46] That's not what you want to hear. [19:48] Fight night is here. Title shots, debut killers, and the rising contender nobody's talking about yet. And only DraftKings has you covered every step of the way.

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I only have one in my house. It's the first one I ever killed. Yeah. I have a that's pretty impressive. You shoot an elk or anything but with a bow and arrow you're close. Yeah it's a lot of work. Yeah not easy. It's not easy but I I look forward to [21:18] Two weeks, a week? A week. Usually a week. A week at a time. Yeah. You go to Mexico? I haven't been to New Mexico, but I want to. New Mexico is like the Gila Mountains out there. That's supposed to be like one of the best elk.

That, Arizona, spots of Utah just for volume. Spots of California. Montana's got big elk. Montana's huge elk. I don't know about Wyoming. I know Idaho. Wyoming has big elk. Utah has huge elk. I'm not an elk hunter, but I know all this because the one time I went elk hunting, [21:48] I gave my trainer, my horse trainer, my tag. Oh, really? And I just followed him. [21:53] Oh, wow. Yeah, it was cool. And he shot this huge, six by six. Oh, that's cool. So you gave him the tag and just went along with him.

Yeah, I just went along, stayed behind when they had. We got down, you know, crawling around. It was, hey, it's an impressive animal. You've never done it? I don't hunt. You don't hunt at all, just fish? I can't hunt. I don't like to shoot stuff. I get it. Yeah. I get it. I'll kill a snake in a heartbeat. Okay. Or I even have a hard time killing a mouse. Really? [22:23] what it is. Snakes, snakes scare me. [22:26] Centipede? I'll crush a centipede for all he's worth. Then put him in a grinder in the kitchen.

Grind that sucker up. He might still be alive. You ever been to Hawaii and got a hold of some centipedes? Joe, Joe, Joe, hear me. Loud and clear. They're dangerous. Yeah, some of them are. Oh, they're gross. Yeah. Yeah. So. [22:50] No, I'm not hunting. My brother's a hunter. My dad was a hunter. All my uncles are hunters. I don't know why I never did mine. Ain't nothing wrong with that. You don't have to do it. It's not necessary. You could always go to the grocery store. I do that. Yeah, but if you wanted to get it yourself, it's...

I enjoy. It's like fishing. I'll go fishing with you. I don't have to fish, and I love to fish. I don't have to fish as long as you're catching fish and having a good time. That's just much fun for me. [23:16] Oh, mercy! A big island man caught a foot-long centipede. [23:23] That dude caught that on the Big Island of Hawaii? Hey, check that out. Hey, but look here. Right here. [23:29] That's crazy. I didn't know they got that big. [23:32] Is that an invasive one or is that that can't be native to Hawaii, is it?

[23:37] Yeah. [23:39] Hawaii giant centipedes. Whoa. Is there a secret to this? [23:43] Yeah, you flip the top. [23:46] The other way? [23:47] There you go. [23:48] That's it. Pull that button down. Oh, this? Yep. There you go. Sorry about that. No worries. That one, for some reason, that lighter confuses the shit out of people. [23:58] Yeah, it's pretty good lighter too. Yeah. [24:01] Yeah, that was gross, huh? Ugh. Yeah, so you have no problem killing sine bees. You just don't want to kill an animal. I get it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't...

[24:09] But the thing is, if you don't kill them, they get killed by something. It's usually either winter or mountain lions. We raise 27 mallard ducks. [24:16] My wife and I. You raise them? Raise them. Raise them. And so I told her this morning flying down here to Austin. So I told her, I said, we've got five ducks left. [24:25]. [24:26] What happened to them? Stupid ducks. Now, we live way out in the country. What they're doing is coming out of the lake, walking through the field, crossing over the road.

Oh, they get crushed. And they're getting hit on the road. Oh. Why? Why? [24:40] Why, I have no idea. But we have five left out of 27. Are you raising them for eggs? No, we're just raising them for fun. For fun? Just to have ducks hanging around? Yeah, we have ducks, chickens, guineas. Duck eggs are interesting. You ever have them? I'm not eating a duck egg. I don't know why. They're darker yolk. I know that. You ever had a guinea egg? Guinea, what is it? Guinea hen? Guinea hen, yeah. No, I don't think so.

Yeah, yeah. It's good for you, but I... The duck eggs are weird. They like coat your mouth. [25:11] You know what I mean? When you eat them, it tastes different, but apparently it's massively high in protein. Yeah, we were talking about eating buffalo and elk. [25:21] You know, coming in today. And I said, well, I've had buffalo. And that elk that my... [25:28] trainer killed [25:30] I can have all of it I want, and I got one little steak. My wife won't let me cook it. [25:36] She won't let you cook it?

So it's still sitting there. There's no wild game in the house. See? I know. But it's just meat. You met her earlier, didn't you? Yeah, she seems like a lovely lady. She is a lovely lady. I don't understand why she has a problem with wild games. When we leave her today, go and say, hey, Tammy, how about we go over to the house and have a nice little... [26:00] little elk steak and, you know, [26:02] That ain't going to happen. Some people have a bad misconception about wild game. You know, they think that it smells bad or tastes bad.

I think it's taste. I don't like deer. [26:12] Really? I don't like deer. I like buffalo. I think it's how it's prepared. I guarantee you if you had deer from someone who prepares it well. Do you eat duck? Duck? [26:21] Do we eat duck? Yes, I do. We tried to cook some duck. Yeah. It was horrible. See, this is what we're talking about. No, I think it's just how you're preparing it, really. [26:33] I don't know. I do know this. Mr. Child's got some of the best duck I've ever had.

Mr. Child's in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. Yeah. That's where I eat duck. Fantastic duck. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now that's good duck. I think they probably do a better job of preparing it. That's all it is. [26:50] We tried to do the roux. [26:52] The roux that you cook, duck in? Mm-hmm, yeah. [26:55] It ended up looking like tar. Right. Do you guys – but do you know how to cook? Well, we thought we did. [27:04] We found that. Is your wife a good cook? Is your wife a good cook? Yes, she is.

Anthony Bourdain went on this duck hunt with these guys and cooked the duck for them because they were complaining that duck doesn't taste good, and he got mad at them. He's like, listen, listen, listen. Don't say that. It's not that duck doesn't taste good. It's just you don't know what you're doing. And on the show, he prepares it for them. Got it. And they're like, this is fantastic. [27:25] like yeah that's how you're supposed to prepare duck. [27:28] It tastes really good if you do a good job. Mr. Charles got it down.

[27:32] Yeah, they do. They're chefs, professionals. But my wife and I, we got it out of the computer. [27:38] Oh, okay. You got a recipe. [27:41] A friend of mine [27:42] Sent us five mallards. Right. I think we got two of them out because we didn't know what we were doing. Do they cook down and you don't have a half a bird or what? I don't know. So you've got to make a roux, right? Right. [27:54] You know, the sauce. Right, the sauce. So we got the big pot out, and we're putting this in, that in, this in, that in.

Right. Now you heat it, get it this and that. Then you stir, add this and that. And we stir and we stir. And the more we stir, I end up looking like a rubber tire. [28:13] It was... [28:14] It was horrible. [28:15] Well... [28:16] It was seriously... But Terry, I want you to think about it this way. Imagine if someone learned how to play football from YouTube. [28:24] Never played football before. Oh, let's figure out how to play football. We're going to watch a YouTube video on how to play football.

And then they went out there and had a fucking terrible game. They looked like shit, right? Right. That's the same thing. It's like you learn how to cook from a recipe if you don't know how to cook. I've got a book out called The Brideshow Family Cookbook. So you can cook. [28:45] Yeah, but I... [28:47] I don't cook stuff like that. I make a roux. Now, my son-in-law, you met Noah? Yes. He's a world-renowned, not a world-renowned, but he's voted the number one chef in Dallas. Oh, wow. Yeah. He's from Hawaii.

What restaurants does he cook out of Dallas? Ham's. They hire him. Oh, okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, sure, sure. They hire him. He does these... [29:11] Goes out and cooks for companies and people. It's amazing. Amazing. Matter of fact, I called him yesterday after church, and I said, I always mess up pork, pork chops. I love pork chops. But I screw them up. And he said, what's got temperature at? I said 350. He said 20 minutes. Take them off. [29:29] That's all I needed to know. It's perfect. It's beautiful.

Yeah. Yeah, you just got to learn how to do it. That's all it is. But it's not that the duck tastes bad. Here's the bad thing about it. I know my banker, who's the one I got the ducks from. His name is Drake Mills. Yeah. [29:44] His name is Drake. Drake. And he has. Drake Ducks. And he has ducks. Ducks. He's a duck hunter. But his name is Drake. Drake. Yeah. That's kind of crazy. [29:53] I know, but he's serious. How ironic. Serious duck hunter. Serious. He plants 500 acres of rice.

Oh, serious. Okay. Then he's on the phone with me bitching. It's 80 degrees. [30:07] Duck story. I mean, they are coming in at 80 degrees. Right. It's rice, and he's got water issues. Does he know how to cook duck? No. [30:15] I guess. He's never asked me what I want to eat, a duck, but... [30:20] I asked for some duck. He told me one day he had plenty of duck. And I said, well, Tammy, we don't shoot stuff, but I like duck. [30:28] So he sent us five ducks. [30:45] Right.

The book. Come on, Joe. Yeah. The books are okay. The book says a quarter of something. Really, the right way to do it is to learn from someone who is a really good show. I've got to tell you, I've got to take a break here. This is pretty dang good. It's pretty good. Have you had any more? I have. Cheers. We need to bump again. Let's go. I'm telling you, when this is over with, you'll be sitting over there and I'll be sitting over there. Let's try it. It's got quite a kick, I'll tell you that.

There's a lot in there. You can tell it's 135 proof. Oh, it's good. Yeah. [31:12] I think duck cooking, like I've heard people say that wild game tastes bad. It's the best tasty meat in the world. It's just how do you cook it? You eat turkey, wild turkey? Yes, I've had wild turkey. Dang. You're crazy. No. It was delicious. I mean, the only way wild turkey, you eat squirrel. [31:29] I've had Squirrel. [31:30] Yeah. Now see, I grew up on squirrels. Now you tell my wife that or you tell any of my kids that.

Oh, God. This is a lot like chicken, right? It's a lot like chicken. Would you agree? You're a stand-up comedian. Yeah. Is that a funny? No, it's kind of chicken-like. It's almost like a squirrel. It tastes like chicken? Well, it's not like a red meat. You eat the brain? [31:49] I have not eaten squirrel brain. Yeah. None of the brain. I've had lamb's brain before. Ugh. [31:54] Yeah, my Uncle Vinny used to cook it. He used to slice up. They used to sell it in the grocery store in New Jersey.

They'd slice up a lamb's skull with the brain inside, like sliced in half, and they'd put two halves on the grill, and they would cook lamb's brains on the grill. Hey, I was like 10. I don't know. [32:12] My brother and I used to fight over the squirrel head. Now, I don't want to... The squirrel head used to fight over it? I don't want to gross out our viewers out there. Too late. [32:22] But we... You take them... [32:24] You take them and you hit them with a spoon and rip it, crack it open.

Delicious. I mean, would I eat one today? No. How old were you when you were doing this? I know at least 15 up to 15. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think anything of it. Brains are sketchy. Like eating brains can get you in trouble. Like that's a. Can I honestly say this? Is this the first interview you've ever done where brains, eating brains has been brought up? Probably not. Oh, not? Have we talked about eating brains before? Yeah, for sure. [32:54] We have? Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm not special. Because of prion diseases.

I thought I'd be special today, but evidently not. I think we talked about it in terms of what mad cow disease is. Oh, okay. Mad cow disease comes from them feeding cows cows. It's basically the same disease that cannibals get. Yeah. Yeah. [33:12] Yeah. I'm not familiar with that. Yeah. I know about mad cow disease. They got another one going on right now in South Texas. Is it? Some kind of disease. Oh, the screw worm. Screw worms. Yeah. Yeah. Bruce told me about that. Yeah. [33:24] New world screwed worm. Me, you, horses, dogs.

Yeah, yeah. It's apparently a huge problem. They had it in America, I think in the 80s, and they pushed it back. They got rid of it. So hopefully they can get rid of it again. But it's apparently a really dangerous parasite. Yeah, it's a parasite. [33:45] So... [33:45] I mean... [33:47] I got in trouble one time for seeing people were having during the COVID thing. They were taking... [33:53] Ivermectin. You may have taken Ivermectin. And I gave up. I didn't know any better. I thought I knew, but I didn't know.

But Ivermectin, I used to give it to the cattle. [34:05] Right. [34:06] Thank you. [34:07] That's what I mean. Yeah. And I had a, not speaking of brains, this is true. We were in Hawaii. I run into a brain surgeon. [34:15] And he says, are you okay with the COVID thing? And I said, okay. [34:20] I had it, got over it. [34:22] you know I'm alright now and he says well he says boy I tell you he said I'll take ivermectin man that's been I said brain surgeon and I said to him obviously I said [34:33] Really?

It's a cattle dewormer. [34:36] Ivermectin kills parasites. [34:40] So I just... [34:41] I left it at that, and I walked away and I'm going, brain surgery. I never could rationalize that kind of thinking. Well, you know, ivermectin won the Nobel Prize for human beings, for use in human beings. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's good for yellow fever, dengue fever. It's an antiparasitic that also has antiviral properties. Yeah, I didn't know that. Obviously, I wasn't as well informed as you are. Yeah, well, I got in trouble for it. So did I.

[35:11] publicly like on CNN, the White House talked about it. I got over, you don't know the story. So and for the people that know the story, I'm sorry, I have to repeat it. But during the pandemic, I got COVID and we had me and Dave Chappelle were doing a show in Nashville, and I had to cancel it because I had COVID. And so I made a video. [35:33] saying that I feel better, but we have to cancel the shows. I had COVID. I was sick for a couple of days, but now I'm fine.

And I explained all the stuff that I took. [35:42] I took a bunch of stuff, monoclonal antibodies, and one of the things that I took was ivermectin. Yeah. So it became this huge thing on CNN because they wanted everybody to get vaccinated. So they had all these different people saying that I was taking horse dewormer. Well, human medication prescribed to me by my doctor, who also took ivermectin, also got COVID, also got better, and he didn't take all the stuff that I took. Yeah. I took a bunch of stuff, but… [36:06] They changed the color of my skin.

They made my skin look green on CNN. [36:10] No bullshit. Oh. No bullshit. They AI'd you. They literally put a filter on my face to make me look green. They would put a cow's head over me. I honestly did not know that a human. Takes ivermectin. But I will say. It was actually invented for humans. I actually did know that. And I'm thankful that I didn't argue with anybody. And he wasn't the only one that told me that. Well, the problem was that was a narrative that was all over the news.

Yeah. [36:40] that it was horse dewormer. And if you're a person who works with animals, with horses, with cows. I only knew it was cattle. It is a dewormer, but that's like saying penicillin is a veterinary medicine. No, well, they use penicillin on animals. They also use penicillin on humans. It's like it's medicine. We're mammals. We have similar medicines. That's what ivermectin is. It stops viral replication, and that's the benefit that a lot of people. But was it proven to stop? Was it proven? There's a ton of studies. There's a lot of people that have written books.

I'm not the guy to talk about it. [37:10] Yeah. [37:11] A lot of evidence that the reason why they were not telling people to take ivermectin is because they wanted everybody to get vaccinated. I got one over here. Thank you. But the reason why they wanted everyone to get vaccinated is not because it was effective. It's because they wanted to make a lot of money, and that's what they did. Well, when you're talking about drugs, you're talking about a lot of money. A lot of money. Yeah, a lot of money.

[37:32] So that's why it's ironic that you brought that up because I got caught in the crossfires of the ivermectin bullshit. [37:37] And. [37:38] This episode is brought to you by Activia. You might already be eating yogurt, but not all yogurts are created equal. Activia contains over 1 billion probiotics per serving to survive and reach the gut alive. When it comes to gut health, Activia is the number one family doctor recommended probiotic yogurt brand. Choose Activia. Feel good from the inside out. Visit ca for more details. [38:05] And see, I but I knew more about it than I did, because I had to find a farmer.

It's all I used it for. Yeah, I used it very effective as a dewormer. Yeah, but it also stops viral replication. And but I wasn't going to take it. I don't care if they just said this is I wasn't going to take that. You wouldn't take it even if it was prescribed to you by your doctor. [38:27] Well, it'd be a different story. Right. Well, mine was prescribed to be by my doctor. Well, I'm married to a doctor, and my doctor said, we're not taking him. Really? But I took, you know, I'm one of those guys that if they say, I mean… [38:39] do you [38:40] When I got COVID, I was like,

[38:44] I was sitting... [38:46] And [38:48] My dressing room at Fox felt fine. [38:51] We got tested every Sunday morning. We got tested. They came in and said, you got to go. You got to leave. [38:59] What happened? [39:00] Oh, you've got... [39:01] you got COVID. I'm like, what? Did you get sick? [39:04] No. Oh, now here's the thing. Okay. Here's the thing. [39:09] The question is, [39:11] that came to mind later was, okay, the guy that drove me over here, the guy that's going to take me to the airport, how am I getting home?

Right. Do I stay here in the hotel for 10, 12 days? That was my dilemma. What do I do? But I did get sick. I did eventually. I did. Yeah. Took me about four days and I got real sick. Yeah. Did you do anything during those four days? Were you taking vitamins? Nothing? No. Why not? I don't take vitamins. What? I don't take that. No. How [39:41] You're married to a doctor. [39:42] I never have taken vitamins. I don't know why. Really? No. Even when you're playing? No, no. I take a B12 shot.

[39:48] Okay. Well, that's a vitamin. But I give it to myself. You give it to yourself? Yeah. Intramuscular? Yeah. Okay. A little tube. We'd take it after practice. Had them in a big bag. We'd take them. Okay. That's good for energy. Yeah. But there's much. Tired. Hot. Tired. But no. Sure. Well, other vitamins too, though. I don't have a problem with MRI machines, PET scans, surgery. Now, I got a bad hip right now. I'm telling you, Joe, it's killing me. Yeah. And I got it injected. [40:14] with stem cells? No, no, I don't do stem cells.

Why not? I don't believe in stem cells. You don't believe in them? No. But you believe in that little baby Jesus? [40:23] Absolutely. To catch this fish for you? No, this I do for leaving. Go ahead and laugh. Joe, you don't want to laugh when I got baby Jesus pointing at it. You better cut that laugh. Listen, bro, if you and I go fishing, I'm going to beg you to point that baby Jesus my way. No, no, no, no. I'm going to give you one. I got hundreds of these. If we go fishing, I really want to point my way.

I believe... [40:44] I believe that little baby Jesus works. My question is, how come you don't believe in stem cells? [40:49] Thank you. [40:52] I had too many people [40:54] Based just on people that went and did stem cells. Uh-huh. And what happened? Uh-huh. [41:00] They went back and did it again. Okay. Did it again. Right. Then what happened? What happened? They went back and did it again. Okay. Then what happened? What happened? They went back and did it again. Got it. Okay. Right. Why'd they keep going back? Because it didn't work.

Okay. Didn't work at all? Same symptoms came. No, no, no. It worked. It worked for a little bit. Right. Well, what are these people dealing with? What's wrong with them? [41:21] They're going back and back and back. Mostly knees and ankles. Okay. So you're probably talking about arthritis. Yeah. You're probably talking about degenerative... [41:32] Knee conditions, ankle conditions. So the amount of damage that you're trying to repair with stem cells, you're going to get a little bit of benefit in something like that if it's that far gone. But stem cells work.

I don't – you know, good. I'm glad. I'm glad they work. You do stem cells? 100%. What? What hurts? I had a rotator cuff tear that completely went away. That's at least a year. [41:55] That's what you say. At least a year. I had a full-length rotator cuff tear. I got stem cells shot into it. A full tear. Full tear. My doctor told me I 100% was going to need surgery. I went to an orthopedic surgeon that the UFC recommended, so they sent me to their guy. If I finish this, Joe, excuse me.

Please go. But if I finish this, I'm probably going to believe you. [42:14] You don't have to believe me or not believe me. I'm telling the truth. So I went to this doctor. He said, you have a full length rotator cuff tear. You're going to need surgery. He goes, you could rehab it if you want. You could try. Maybe make it a little bit better. But ultimately, you're just putting off the surgery. So I get this stem cell treatment in Vegas. Dr. Roddy McGee hooks me up with the stem cell treatment.

And then six months later, he gives me an MRI and he says... [42:37] The rotator cuff tear is completely gone. He goes, I've never seen anything like this in my life. He goes, it's gone. [42:43] It literally, the tear doesn't exist anymore. You had baby Jesus in your pocket. No, I had science. All right. Hey. It works. [42:52] You'd be silly to ignore breakthrough science like this because there's a reason why so many people are doing it. The reason why so many people are doing it is – look, it's not a miracle.

It's not going to fix things that are unfixable, like bone-on-bone arthritis. It's not going to fix that. That's what I'm doing. But it might reduce some of the inflammation and give you at least temporary relief, which is why these people keep going back again and again and again. When I got cancer – [43:15] I had to do certain treatments, and I have rheumatoid arthritis. Now, if I were still on rheumatoid arthritis medicine, which I haven't been for three years now, [43:27] I probably wouldn't be having the pain that I'm having.

[43:30] but [43:31] You can't take the rheumatoid arthritis after you have [43:37] And so... [43:38] Do you want to risk that? Right. Plus, I kept getting all these... [43:43] cancer things. So you had two types of cancer, right? You had skin cancer. I had bladder and Merkle cell, which is 2% of America has Merkle cell. Both of them [43:55] The bladder cancer was... [43:59] I went to a doctor in Dallas. He checked me and he says, well, you got a little blood in your urine, but that's fine. That's normal or something like that.

[44:08] And I kept complaining. And it went on. Finally, I told my wife. I said, boy, something's not right. And so she researched and found the best doctor was at Yale University. Yale. So I went up to New Haven, Connecticut. [44:21] for testing. Went in, exploratory biopsy came out and said, [44:26] You got bladder cancer. [44:29] Wow. [44:29] It's a funny story about that. Funny story. Now, there's nothing funny about cancer. [44:36] The last time I got divorced. You ever been divorced? No. Okay, good. Good for you. So the last time I got divorced.

[44:42] Thank you. [44:44] My wife calls me and she says, I need for you to sit down. [44:48] I don't love you anymore. I want a divorce. [44:52] Oh, okay. [44:53] All right? End of that story. Right. So my wife, the wife's sitting outside. After she gets the reports, I didn't know she got the report. She says... [45:03] Honey. [45:04] I need for you to sit down. [45:07] I ain't sitting down. I don't want another divorce. That's the first thing. It flapped into my head. The last time I heard a woman tell me, sit down, I need for you to sit down, my ass is out of there at 5 o'clock that afternoon.

Oy. [45:24] Hey. That's a lot. Yeah. I wouldn't sit down. Bad day. She said, you got bladder cancer. And I said, all right. At least we're not getting a divorce. I can deal with bladder cancer. I can't deal with another divorce. [45:37] about stem cells and bladder? [45:39] Let me ask you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about stem cells. They made a bladder for this woman out of stem cells. She had some sort of a bladder issue. I don't remember if it was cancer or what it was, but she had to have her bladder removed.

They made a completely new bladder for her out of stem cells with her own skin tissue, put it back in her body. And now that's her bladder. [46:02] So stem cells work. Did that make the news? Yeah. Oh, sure. There's articles written about it. Peer-reviewed papers on it. She's been here? No, she has not been here, nor has the doctor that did it. But I'm aware of the story. It's like putting it in a bowl and you grow it in a bowl. I don't know how they did it because I'm a moron.

But someone very smart. I'm totally a moron when it comes to stuff like that. Someone very smart figured out how to make a bladder. [46:24] But if it works for you and you believe it, who am I to... What do you mean believe it? She's got a bladder now. No, if you believe... [46:31] Fine, but I mean – [46:33] Fine. That's good. Listen, if you ever get injured, holler at me. I'll bring it a ways to, well, get you some stem cells, and then we'll have another conversation afterwards. You're like, wow, I fixed it.

We're not arguing here. No, we're not arguing. But I'm saying there's real reasons why these people travel to Tijuana and go to these different places. And they die in Tijuana. [46:56] What was the great doctor that went to Mexico to have all the stem cells done? Who did that? [47:03] He was the ghost. What was his name? The actor. [47:09] Also... What, Zemecki died? [47:12] Two actors went down there for stem cells. When stem cells first came out, you know, they wouldn't do it. Remember when they wouldn't do it in America?

Yes. So they were going to Germany and they were going to Mexico. Yeah. Germany was a lot for Regenicene. Yeah. They were going for different procedures. Because I know Fred Couples was going to Germany. Yeah. [47:28] Well, I mean Kobe Bryant went to Germany. Peyton Manning went to Germany. They went to Germany for Regenikine, which is like a very – that's not stem cells as much. That's something – What is it? It's a very advanced form of platelet-rich plasma like PRP. It's like PRP, but it's way more effective. I had that done too.

That cured a bulging disc for me. [47:50] One of the things they're doing now, and I don't know what it is, [47:52] I don't know how we got on this, by the way. Stem cells. Yeah. [47:56] But cancer is now... [47:59] What are they? What is what's it called? When you go in, they spend your blood and they then put it back in you. [48:06] What is that called? Do you know what it is? PRP? That's what we were just talking about. Platelet-rich plasma? Yeah. Then put it back in? Yeah.

Yeah. Interesting. Look. Well, there's a bunch of different things. Plasma phoresis. It's another thing. They take the plasma out. I don't know why. And I'm not sitting here... [48:25] I'm not sitting here saying, hey, Joe, you're crazy. [48:29] All right. You did it. You wouldn't be the first. No. You did it. You believe in it. It happened for you. [48:35] you know, [48:36] All right. I don't mind taking a shot. I'll take a shot all day long. Okay. You don't, you put anything in your body with a needle? [48:42] anything?

Not anything. I mean, I'm pretty careful about it. I would hope so. Yeah, don't just try it out. Let's see what happens when I put this in my body with a needle. Yeah, it's [48:55] And [48:56] Look, I got a sister-in-law that's totally this way, and I'm totally that way. You're one way, and that's good. That's what makes the world go around. What does a sister-in-law do? What do you mean? What does that mean? Is she a liberal? [49:10] No, absolutely not. Very much Republican conservative. Yeah. Okay. So how is she different than you?

In what way? [49:18] Shit. [49:20] If it works and I think it's going to work, I'm not afraid to try it. Right. I was – when I got diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and I'm laying in a hospital and they take me and they isolate me. Isolate me because they didn't know what was wrong with me. [49:38] Thank you. [49:38] Test, test, test, test. [49:42] Boy, I'm in a hurry than to go in and do... [49:48] I want to say stem cells. I want to say it because that's the first thing that comes to mind.

[49:53] Went into my knee... [49:55] and [49:57] I sat in the hospital for two more days and felt fine. And then they released me and I went home. And... [50:03] I was home one day and in the middle of the night I'm screaming and hollering in pain. My wife, she gets up and thank God at that time I owned a plane so I could get on the plane and... [50:16] get back to Florida and [50:19] Got down there and that's when they found out I had rheumatoid arthritis. [50:23] And they had to bring a specialist in to find out what the hell was going on with me.

So is it only the knees? [50:28] Yeah, only the knee. Okay. Only the knee. That's where the knee. I never – there's no rheumatoid arthritis in my family. None. You can't find it anywhere. But isn't rheumatoid arthritis systemic? When most people have it, don't they have it everywhere? That's what I thought. Well, yeah, but look at – But if you have it in your – Yeah, but look. This finger's just turning. That thumb's just now turning. My hand's – [50:52] Right now... [50:53] Because I don't take any medicine, the only thing that hurts in the morning before I take – do you take Celebrex?

Do you believe in Celebrex? What is Celebrex? Celebrex anti-inflammatory. No, I don't take that. Okay, I take an inflammatory in the morning. That's all I can take. I take turmeric. Okay. I take an anti-inflammatory. And that takes about 80% of the pain away. It doesn't hurt anywhere else.